Black Crystal = Diamond = Bumblebee???

[oblivion]

Hi,

Just saw some shrimps being sold as black crystal shrimps at Y618 today.
Looks like a black and white version of crs.

Would like to find out if they are also known as diamond and bumblebee shrimps?
I checked around the net and i see these 3 names being used but the pictures all look to be the same shrimp to me.

anyone can advise?

[hwchoy]

colour markings are not very reliable indication of actual species, as there are several species from southeastern China (where most of these critters originate) that bear very similar markings.

if you buying them to enjoy the colour then don't worry about it, if you want to breed them then that's a different story.

[des]

i think the one y618 is selling is black crystal which is also known here in singapore as diamond shrimp.

[oblivion]

so the bumblebee shrimp should be a different species then saw it on the net looks similar

but don't see this name being used in Singapore though

bee shrimp i know its another species but bumblebee i not sure

[Heavenhell00]

Bumblebee has different types .. they look alike diamond shrimps for those very high grade bumbleebees ... sometimes .. you will get confused ... cheers

[equidorz]

diamond shrimp always start with a white band first followed by black.. bee starts with black i guess!

[hwchoy]

again, these markings are not reliable indicator of their species.

[oblivion]

haha so basically meaning if like then just buy!
Because nobody can know for sure

[hwchoy]

like I said, if you want to breed them then it might be an issue, else just enjoy lah.

as far as many of these atyid shrimps, the differentiating traits are in the morphology of the rostrum, mandibular and limb structures. I believe markings does have some relevance but as at this point the scientific literature does not use markings as a classifying trait. the reason being that all shrimps turn beige or red when preserved leaving little clue of the coloration and markings when alive.

[Heavenhell00]

diamond shrimp always start with a white band first followed by black.. bee starts with black i guess!

Not really, i have quite number of different bumblebees in my tank ... they have white band or brownish band first as well ....

[hwchoy]

see what I mean! haha

[richietay]

http://www.shrimpnow.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189

i'm also quite confuse about those bee, bumblebee, diamond shrimp...etc.

[oblivion]

bee, bumblebee, diamond, black crystal... etc
all really very hard to differenetiate
then some lfses sell them already pre-packed in plastic bags.
even harder to get a good look through the plastic

i think i'll just stick to cherries, malayans, crs, ghost and tigers
haha at least i can tell those apart!

oh and theres some kind of rhino shrimp
with a horn-like thing in front

[Robert]

Hi,
I wrote some articles about these shrimps. Normally it is possible to differentiate the species by the appearance of their pattern and coloration. But you need some experience. Here you can read about the typical appearance of these shrimps: http://www.shrimpnow.com/modules.php...category&cid=2

These are not all bee-like species. It looks like this:

picture by Farschad Farhadi

There is at least one more species which looks a lot like a high grade diamond shrimps. But it lacks the orange coloration and it is wild caught in China. I got no chance yet to get these shrimps for a good prize and to gain some experiences with them, so they are missing from the list.

best regards

Robert