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    Cloudy water in new tank setup for comments

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    guys....

    i setup my tank on last sunday, i was so happy to see "fake" bubble effect after i added water, it lasted for few hours dunno why? later all bubbles gone and then cloudy water kick in. Today is the 3rd day showing cloudy and i see it getting worst. pls help me to assess what is this cloudy water caused by? kinda milky cloudy.... bacteria boom?
    how to fix it.

    i was using internal filter from day 1 to 3... i bot canister filter Jebo 838 with 1200L/H today and oredi installed and running for few hours.


    1st picture was taken half an hour ago after installing canister filter.

    my tank : 3.5ft x 1.5 ft x 2 ft. = 65 gallon or 300 lit
    Ligthing: 80W only... will add more this week end. (1 - power-glo, 1 aqua-glo, 2 T5 6400k NO, all 20 watt each)
    updated: 140 w in day 5, added 3 x 20w T5 6400k NO.
    DIY CO2 (bot CO2 cylinder + regulator but the horse is not fit, LFS dun want to fix for me, and return all money to me...! so i hv to look for other shop this week end)
    plants are taken from my exisiting tank for testing...(not enough?)
    JBL base soil (in middle of gravel) + gravel ~ holland?
    PH 7 ~ 7.5
    KH ~ 4
    temp 29 ~ 30 c


    pls comment the cloudy water based on the pic....
    pic1 ~ cloudy?? why Pic 2 ~ putting JBL base soil Pic 3 ~ topping with gravel Pic 4 ~ just added water..so clear Pic 5 ~ immediate pearling and see oxygen pouring out from the broken root. (can any one pls explain why i can see pearling when first added water, but not after a few hour?)
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    Plant more to avoid algae!

    And, the thickness of the layer of the right is not good! too thick, it will lead to severe anaerobic (not sure if spelling is good!), which might caused some sulphite bla bla bla...Read more by doinga search on the net or through AQ
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    cannot be like that? i just want a bit of landscaping...

    besides, my JBL base soil not enough to reach the right side of the tank...so i top up the gravel to make hilly.

    where can i find those reading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvchong View Post
    cannot be like that? i just want a bit of landscaping...
    yes you can.
    remove your CO2 and keep your lighting at this wattage. Don't add in any more. Else you will have BBA, hair algae and GSA all coming in due to your fertilisation.

    Anyway, don't you think it is a waste of fertiliser if you only have that many plants? also you have spread the fertiliser on the whole surface right? so why not add in more plants to utilise it?
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    remove CO2? temporarily? cannot imagine plant without CO2

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    It is possible.
    Permanently. Just have to choose the correct types of plants for the correct type of setup.
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    Plants can live without CO2 injection... CO2 will still be naturally present in the water although at lower concentrations. At this kind of conditions plant growth is much slower and you have to do things that suit the slow growth.

    You will have to live with some algae. Imho, either a tank is planted fully, or a tank doesn't have any plants at all. If you plan to keep the tank as it is now (meaning no more plants added) I suggest you remove your CO2. CO2 will simply cause too many problems. Only use it if you intend to stock the tank full of plants. I can't explain the last picture... it's similar to what happens when you put completely dry driftwood into a tank; all the air bubbles start forming on it.

    The bubbles from broken roots are normal, in my tank if I trim my plants or if I have a cut on one of my plants (in particular Anubias barteri var nana ) there will be a stream of bubbles appearing for some time.

    Cloudy water is normal, because your tank is totally new and very little filter bacteria is present. Try to add in some bottled bacteria from Seachem or Nutrafin, or get "dirt" from a filter running on another established tank.

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    i read some forumer suggested water change?
    two theories found:
    a) water change until the water clear
    b) water change will damage the new tank bacteria forming....

    which one to follow?

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    I personally will go for no water change. Let the water clear by itself.
    But add bottled bacteria as suggested by squee. Or, if you have old filter media, squeeze out the dirty stuff into the tank...
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    yes...oredi done so...i just put my existing tank filter together with dirt into this new tank.

    what next? 2morow going to the LFS... what to pick up? bacteria solution?

    can i add more plant? i intend to full planting my tank, but i am not sure the cloudy water will make my plant melt... few of them started to melt... .

    the light penetration is poor also... very worry.

    pic attached... red circle is where i put my filter with dirt. btw, can anyone tell me of what kinda of cloudy water is this? no algae? green water? i hope not.....
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    Get a bottle of bacteria. Something like this.

    You can plant more. Plants might melt when introduced, it's normal. Just clean up the dead parts and leave the live ones to regenerate.

    The cloudy water is normal... it's the same for all new tank setups. Once the bacteria proliferates and your tank is ready for fish, the water should be clear.

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    yape...! thanks man

    my tank is clear now after added Stress Zyme ~ live bacteria (usa made).

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