ID: What is this? - Apistogramma bitaeniata 'Haway'

[riltz]

bought it recently at biotope. can help me id the species? can't remember what its called already.

[joopsg]

Should be Apistogramma. Bitaeniata "Purutu"

[Cacatuoides]

Yea, its Ap. Bitaeniata, but not sure of its specific variant as this color morph is similar between a few variants such as Purutu, Shishita, Shushupi, etc

[genes]

The only yellowish Ap. Bitaeniata that i can remember of from biotope is from "Purutu". Can't remember if there are anymore yellowish ones brought in after that. Maybe Thio (biotope boss) can help you out.

[riltz]

hmm i saw the tank wrote something like ap haway. but i'm not sure, is it confrim a species of a bitaeniata?

[valice]

Oh.. Is the Apistogramma sp 'Haway' ar? It is confirmed to be a A.bitaeniata. The Haway is probably a trade name.

[riltz]

oh haha thanks! but the body very broad for a A.bitaeniata right? anyway i haven gotten a female et cause no stock, haha i rush to buy the male cause it look impressive, pics taken the night i bought it!

[valice]

The one you have in the picture is of standard body shape. The slim ones are like Dicrossus filamentosus aka checkboard cichlids and Taenicara candidi. The broad and deep body shapes are like A.sp 'Algodon' or A hongsloi.

I must agree that they looked very impressive at the shop. Real pity that there are no females. I believe Gecko bought a pair too.

[carlfsk]

Hey, so is it confirm to be ap haway? or Ap. wild bitaeniata 'purutu' rio ampiyacu(which I got from Biotope recently too)?

What's the difference between the 2?

Also, any idea what's tis 'purutu' suppose to mean?

[valice]

The difference between the two would probably be the collection point and therefore of slightly different colouration. Else they are the same.

Purutu from Google seems to mean beans. And it is a trade name given by the Peruvian exporters. Just like Haway or Flamenco. What is important is Rio Ampiyacu, which gives a rough idea of where the fish is collected.

And also like Shushupi or Shishita. They are all just A.bitaeniata of different colours.

[carlfsk]

do you think the extensions of the dorsal fins warrant another name. Some it seems to be extra long, which is magnificent.

[valice]

You refering to the extensions on the front of the dorsal fins? That's the characteristics of all A.bitaeniata. And I believe it comes with age and condition of the fish and whether it is the dorminant one in the vicinity or a sneaker male who tries to hide his own sexual identity to prevent haressment.

And really, some of the pictures we see really have pretty magnificent fins like you mentioned. But don't think that warrants another name as length is not a characteristic used in identification.

[Cacatuoides]

the names given do not relate to the extensions of the dorsal membranes....

As valice has said, such trade names are given by the exporters..... different names may mean different collection points, resulting in slight difference in their colors....

quality and source of fish is the main key to its impressive coloration, body structure and its finnage as well....don't expect to pay cheaply for a pair of "magnificant" apisto

[carlfsk]

Now I realise why different pair commands different prices even though they looks identical. Maybe the finnages plays a part in pricing.

Few years back I got a pair of breitbinden with really great finnages. Need not to say, I am overwhelmed by those long fins that I paid a bomb even though I have no experience with them. No need to say again, they didn't last. It was this experience that put a halt in my advances to these fishes.

Now I'm at it...coming for them...cautiously

[joopsg]

to achieve the nice finnage, try to keep apistogramma in a low ph condition