Reply With QuoteIt's only a porous gravel. It may leach some minerals but there is no comparison to soil[eg: Aquasoil] or base fertilizers.
It does little in terms of fertilization.
Hi everyone. I have a question to ask.
I am currently using Seachem Onyx in my 3 footer. However I have noticed that my plants do not seem to be growing well. Does Seachem Onyx offer any fertilisation? I read up about it before I bought it but people have said that there is no need to put any base fert. Just the Seachem Onyx is enough for plants to flourish.
I am using injected CO2, chiller and MH. Please advise.
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It's only a porous gravel. It may leach some minerals but there is no comparison to soil[eg: Aquasoil] or base fertilizers.
It does little in terms of fertilization.
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So this means that I must either add basefert, which makes the substrate look unslightly, or dose heavily through the water column if I'm having demanding plants?
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I don't know about others, but I always use base fert as a "backup".
Dose enough via the water column should be OK. You don't have to dose heavily, you can go with EI and control via the ppm or just go ahead with the commercial products and follow the manufacturer's instructions and adjust from there.
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Hi Lighthammer,
Since you mentioned you are using mH, I presume plant uptake would be high whenever it's switched on. As such you would need to dose on the high side as well.
Base ferts are meant for start up when you've got nothing in the tank, lay a layer of it about 1-2" thick and then lay inert gravel [flourite, onyx, lapis, holland sand] about 2-4" over it to prevent the base fert particles from fouling the water.
What you have now, you can dose as per EI or other methods and supplement with fertilizer inserts into the gravel. These are wide ranging from root monster, multi long bottoms, florenette tablets, E15 tablets, 7balls, clay balls etc. without doiing a total rescape.
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What are the plants that are not doing well?Originally Posted by Lighthammer
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Hi Lighthammer?,
Try this cheap and effective fertilizer:
More information:
http://www.hagen.com/usa/aquatic/pro...01076740020101
You need:
1) a 10ml Syringe.
2) a 100ml cup.
Dilute the fertlizer by pouring 20ml into the cup and top up with 60ml water. Inject this solution directly under the root, inject 5ml at each bunch of rooted plant. If all other tank parameters are right, you will see result in 3 days' time.
Last edited by FC; 21st Mar 2007 at 21:59.
Freddy, that's an interesting way to fertilize the roots.
The product is available in the usual shops?
Interesting, do you need to do that every day?
Freddy, I understand that you do not use the EI method. May you please enlighten us on the other tank parameters? I'm actually still quite blur when you explained the balance of macro and mircos the other day. Probably you may share your method to one and all as your plants are really healthy...
Wow, I do not expect such interest.
Thank you for the compliments, "Aquaculture". Ok, the plants hardly die on me
I have been into planted tank for 5~6 years now and I almost never have algae issues except the green dust on the glass walls which I also found a cure last year. Now, I need not clean the glass every week, I clean once every 3~4 weeks. I learnt everything with time and patient.
As far as I know, I am the pioneer in substrate fertilizer injection method. It came about when I need to rejuvinate my depleted base fertilizer. Since I learnt the nutrient balance technique, I told myself, why not I take control over what's in the substrate too. Besides, my mostly rooted plant will benefit directly from it. I had shared this method 3 years ago here but I am surprise not many try it.
Answers:
"Valice" - I bought it at Nature Aquarium.
"Shadow" - You need only to inject every 3~4 weeks or inject whenever you need to "wake up" a weak plant.
"Aquaculture" - I recently share this in killies.com. Check out:
http://www.killies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3482
Go to Page 4 of:
http://www.killies.com/forum/viewtop...=3449&start=45
Last edited by FC; 22nd Mar 2007 at 22:02.
care to share the cure for green dust algae on the glass walls?
If I remember correctly, FC uses UV to get rid of green dust.
I though UV is for green water, I guess it also work for green dust.
"Aquaculture" is right. I used UV. However, you need the right one and right execution.
1) Get a 13 watts or more type, any lower power than this is almost ineffective.
2) Clean the glass walls thoroughly and change water 100%.
3) Turn on the UV once the water level is filled enough to run the filter.
4) Run the UV for at least 2 weeks, 24 hrs a day. I recommend not to turn off at all.
See photo on how fertliser injection helps these plants.
It is mentioned in the above #11 post (bottom part). Unlike EI method, here, so long the bio load is low, you need not change water at all. I change water only when I do rescape where I disturb the substrate too much.
Last edited by FC; 23rd Mar 2007 at 23:24.
Bro it really depends on what plants you're keeping. if ur into stemmed plants, a base fert layer is a must. But since ur scape is already done, try inserting fert tablets like root monster near the roots. it'll help lots.
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