Reply With Quotehi...anyone can shed some light ?
Hi to all experts out there. Need some advice on Tiger shrimp. I just got hook with cherry shrimp one month ago and went to a LFS yesterday and saw they selling tiger shrimp
1) but they looks transparent. but according to the store owner, they will change to all sort of colur...blue, red, green, orange.. how true is that ?
2) Is it more difficult to keep tiger compare to cherry. I did some reading here, it seems that it is not too easy to keep tiger..quite a lot will die in weeks time. but the owner told me, is very easy. any comments ?
3) I started with cherry shrimp because it is low maintainance, only a hang on filter plus water tops up... simple effort..., can the tiger shrimp survive under the same condition ?
4) Can tiger survive in 28deg temp ? or i must install a cooler or fan ?
5) finally how much approximately are the cost of tiger shrimp now?
6) Any bro selling tiger shrimp? i believe is of better quality then those LSF
7) what is the min size of a proper/stable shrimp tank? 1 feet or 1.5 feet? my present cherry is only 20cm high x15cmlengthx15cm wide ( about half a feet only, i find it difficult to control the parameter as the tank is too small. but i did see some shrimplets around, while every 1 week, i will see a dead adult shrimp.
Thanks in advice!
hi...anyone can shed some light ?
It's not easy to keep tiger shrimp, cherry shrimp makes a better choice. I think tiger shrimp need cool temperature and with our weather getting hotter in the coming month, it make it even more difficult.
I don't think tiger shrimp will change color as what the owner told you. maybe he got confused with Malayan shrimp.
I think the approxiamet price for tiger is around $6 for 10.
But I still would suggest you to stick with Cherry shrimp first.
Never create what you can't control
Have not kept them before, but from what I have read:
1) Not heard of them changing colours. LFS could have mistaken them for other species.
2) Yes, more difficult. LFS may not know for sure, for example their stock may be sold out within days and not long enough to make the "proper" assessment.
3) Setup wise should not be a problem, but different shrimps thrive in different water conditions (e.g. pH, hardness)
4) Not sure, but they prefer cooler temperature. At least need a fan.
7) Generally, the bigger the size of your tank is the better, margin for error is larger and changes to the water parameters is not as critical.
Here is some information.
http://www.petshrimp.com/tigershrimp.html
Thanks Vicker and Quixotic !
sorry for another silly question again, from the link given :-
Water Parameters:Needs soft, acidic water to feel well and breed. Can survive for a while in slightly alkaline water, but usually no offspring survive after hatching. Adults seem to be shorter lived in alkaline water, too.
So singapore tap water is consider acidic or alkaline? (actually all my shrimp water...i boil it before use, ie is drinking water i use )
Regards
Our water are Neutral in general.
If it's new set-up, you can used ADA soil as I heard they are good for shrimp and they will turned water into acidic but this is a expensive option.
Or you can ask from LFS for those chemical (can't remember the name) that will lower the water pH slowly since you do not want the sudden change of pH to kill your shrimp.
Never create what you can't control
Huh? I assume you add the boiled water (after it is cool) to the shrimp tank to top up the water. But why boil the water for aquarium use in the first place? To kill the microbial contaminants?
While it may kill microbial contaminants, it may also remove minerals that are essential for the shrimps. Boiling water does not remove heavy metals and toxins including nitrate or pesticides. It reduces the volume of water, and this in turn, makes the contaminants more concentrated.
Chloramine, which is added to our water and lethal to faunas, cannot be removed by boiling water. Boiled water also contain little to no dissolved oxygen.
There is no advantage to using boiled water, so don't bother with it. Use water straight from the tap, but age the water and add de-chlorinators to remove chloramine and bind heavy metals before adding to your tank.
Different areas of tap water has different properties. Mine is close to neutral pH while some others have reported alkaline pH for their tap water.
There are many ways to reduce the pH (make it acidic) including using ADA Aquasoil as the substrate, adding ketapang leaves/peat moss in the tank, using buffer solutions that can be found in LFS etc.
You really need to read a lot more about water chemistry and how your fishkeeping relates to them to make it successful. In light of this, I would second Vicker's suggestion to go with cherry shrimps, until you have gathered enough experience and knowledge to try other more difficult species.
hi, quixotic
the reason i use boiled water is because last time when i was keeping guppies, they always died on me after a 1,2 days. i did faithfully age the water ( at least 48hrs) add antichlorine etc etc...but they just died in huge numbers. I asked my frd who has been quite an expert in guppies breeding, he told me that it could be due to the water. so i heed his advice and boil the water, wait to cool then add in tank. Following that, my guppies strive and breed like rabbit. Since then onwards i always used house drinking water to setup any tank and always without any problem thereafter. i supppose if we can drink it, they should be able to stay alive in it. Although, i dont know much about water chemistry but this unorthodox method does works well for me.
Never create what you can't control
Not true. As an example, heavy metals in small amounts may not be harmful to human, but these small amounts can be lethal to the tank inhabitants, in particularly sensitive creatures like shrimps. And boiling water does not remove heavy metals.Originally Posted by skysky
It probably just so happen that your tap/boiled water does not contain heavy metals, which is why it has no adverse effect on your tank inhabitants. It is dangerous to generalise that whatever boiled water we can drink, they can stay alive in it.
There is more to fishkeeping than just water alone. The way you introduce them into the tank, how you set up and upkeep your tank, top up the water, the quality of fishes etc. So I think there is more to your guppies death than just the water, could have something to do with the tank cycle.
It is not that you cannot use boiled water, but you need to understand what boiled water is about, how it affects the contents and properties. If it works for your guppies, you can always try it for your shrimps, but just a warning not to always expect the same results. Shrimps are particularly sensitive creatures.
For me, I just don't find any benefits in using boiled water. My 2 cents.
Hi Quixotic
Thanks for your advice! I will try to do as much as possible to achieve a stable environment for my new shrimps. will stick with cherry shrimps first then later tiger shrimp..since the price quite affordable now
Keep us Update on your shrimp project! And feel free to ask questions!
Yup, thank you guys !
Hi, vicker. I went to C328 today to buy some moss and saw ADA soil, but i am kinda of worry that the soil will bring the ph value too low, what is your opinion on this ? Also i saw that ada soil has 2 types amazon and african, which one is more suitable for shrimp. Actually i personally felt that...since shrimp is so sensitive to ph value, should'nt we use sand that will not alter water ph. This is also the reason why i decided not to use a few coral rocks that i just brought..
regards
Last edited by Quixotic; 12th Apr 2007 at 12:52.
I tried ADA soil for my cherry shrimp last year and it was quite good. I think Cherry and CRS love acidic water and the ADA soil can just do this job.
I prefer the Black color ADA soil (AMAZONIA) as the contrast of the Red with Black is better than the Brown color ADA soil.
The only problem I have was BBA started to grow on my ADA soil when I neglected my tank.
Erghh......that is a no no...i want a no maintainance tank...i think i will go for non ph affecting quartz kinda sand
Last edited by Quixotic; 13th Apr 2007 at 13:15. Reason: Remove immediate quote
I ever kept 10 tiger shrimps in ada soil in a mini low-tech tank with only a hang on filter. They very actively get pregnant, two die same day they got pregnant, one got a few eggs and lost eventually, the last one give birth to only four shrimplets. I felt they are more "rough" compared to the cherry, I noticed the male will keep chasing the female from the time their ovary sac is very dark in colour to the time they carry eggs. The last pregnant one manage to survive because I seperated it into another tank. Also, they are quite "tough" fellow, one morning I wake up to find one missing, after searching, found it eventually under a furniture, "crawling" slowly on all legs, though the shell appears dry. It survived after I put it back into the tank!
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