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so sorry that i called it german ram.. there was once i went to a LFS and i saw a similar ram like urs and that LFS boss told me that its german ram instead of ballon ram.. so i thought that it was a german ram.. so sorry..
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so sorry that i called it german ram.. there was once i went to a LFS and i saw a similar ram like urs and that LFS boss told me that its german ram instead of ballon ram.. so i thought that it was a german ram.. so sorry..
EvolutionZ. Not a problem as far as I am concerned. I do not expect everyone to be correct just that all information is given in good faith (i.e. you must believe it is true as you do in this case). Anyway, all information, even those not entirely correct, provides clues to search over the internet. I take this as a learning experience as hopefully, you do to.
The big problem I find is that certain lfs do not provide names or if they do, incorrect ones or non-standard ones (especially with plants). Also, as valice points out, they would like you to believe they are right. Often this is just to make a sale.
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ya.. a lot LFS dun don't give proper name to those fishes..
Last edited by Quixotic; 4th May 2007 at 11:01. Reason: SMS lingo
Well, at the end of the day we cant change the brand name of japanese car that manufacture in Thailand.
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But German or Holland rams are NOT scientific names, they are merely common names for farm bred fishes from there. If there is a common name that is applicable for all, then it should just be... rams.
This is why we encourage the use of scientifc names.
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Read here for more information on why scientific names are used to ID fish compared to arbitrary common names:
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...article_id=108
http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/...ton_Names.html
http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/...ksby_Name.html
http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/..._Taxonomy.html
http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/fi.../fishnames.htm
Those are great articles and readups. Perhaps we should put them up as sticky to encourage the use of scientific names for this wonderful hobby.Originally Posted by budak
So which one is the scientific name for RAMs? I did some search and come up with 3 names: Mikrogeophagus ramirezi, Apistogramma ramirezi, Papilochromis ramirezi. Assuming that Balloon rams, German rams and holland rams are all the same species, shouldn't it be only one scientific name then?
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Apistogramma ramirezi or Papilochromis ramirezi were old names used for the fish before they were scientifically examined. Upon examination, it was decided that they should really belong to the genus Mikrogeophagus.
A. ramirezi and P. ramirezi are now considered as synonyms for M. ramirezi.
Take note that there is another species of Ram in the genus Mikrogeophagus, which is the Bolivian Ram, M. altispinosus.
OK thanks for the info and sorry for digging up old thread
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