My first pair of Apistogramma bitaeniata

**caseyhoo** · 27th May 2007, 19:49

Hi all expert there, need to learn a lots from you all...

Apr 14
Brought my 1st pair of apisto

Apr 23
Found out Apisto Bitaeniata spawn. They are just tiny red eggs that stick to stone. Suspect eggs is 2 days old+-.

Apr 28
Counted around 15 babies apisto.

May 16
There is at least 6pcs of Bitaeniata babies still survive in tank. Nowsaday, feed them with frozen BBS.

**Cacatuoides** · 27th May 2007, 22:23

Congrats on your new pair and babies!!! Feed them well and change water once a week for better results

**leeruisheng** · 27th May 2007, 22:26

A little confused here. Cause you said red fries sticking to a stone. I think you meant eggs. Then babies meaning they are already swimming?

**genes** · 27th May 2007, 22:27

Errrr...how exactly can we help you? There dosen't seem to have any questions posed in your thread.

However, congrats on your buy and success in breeding them!

**valice** · 28th May 2007, 09:50

Helped you change the title and cleaned up the thread a little.
Just to correct some terms used. When F1 or F2 is used, it refers to the 1st generation and 2nd generation of fries from a pair of wild parents.

So if the parent pair is not wild, usually, we don't use F1 or F2.
Good luck with your apisto journey and enjoy.

**caseyhoo** · 28th May 2007, 10:24

Originally Posted by valice

Helped you change the title and cleaned up the thread a little.
Just to correct some terms used. When F1 or F2 is used, it refers to the 1st generation and 2nd generation of fries from a pair of wild parents.

So if the parent pair is not wild, usually, we don't use F1 or F2.
Good luck with your apisto journey and enjoy.

Understand that long time ago.

Photo apisto is F1, 1st generation fries from a pair of wild parents that I brought from home breeder.

**caseyhoo** · 26th Jun 2007, 13:39

better photo of the papa

**illumnae** · 26th Jun 2007, 13:42

haha that looks like the bitaeniata that PLee and i got!

**caseyhoo** · 26th Jun 2007, 13:44

I think so...

My bitaeniata also from "peru"

**trident** · 26th Jun 2007, 13:57

caseyhoo,
Must be quite exicting, I am new to apisto too.
How are the fries now?
Richard

**illumnae** · 26th Jun 2007, 13:59

what are your tank specs like? my pair are juvs, but i'm hoping to get them to spawn in the future =)

**caseyhoo** · 26th Jun 2007, 14:10

Originally Posted by trident

caseyhoo,
Must be quite exicting, I am new to apisto too.
How are the fries now?
Richard

Fries is doing well... Only left 8 fries from 1st batch of spawn

Originally Posted by illumnae

what are your tank specs like? my pair are juvs, but i'm hoping to get them to spawn in the future =)

Tank : 2 * 1 * 1 ft
Soil/Sand : Black sand + thin layer of ADA soil
Filter : Sponge filter, square box filter with ADA soil inside it
Temperature : 29'c ~ 31'c
ph : 6.2 +-

**genes** · 26th Jun 2007, 21:50

Originally Posted by caseyhoo

better photo

This is the F1 male? Looks kinda aged. Looking good though. You must have kept them for a long time already.

**Wackytpt** · 26th Jun 2007, 22:21

Originally Posted by illumnae

haha that looks like the bitaeniata that PLee and i got!

Yixiang, there are cases of Biteniata caught from different location and the looks the same.

The male looks pretty big then the given age.

**iwishweallcouldwin** · 27th Jun 2007, 00:05

hi caseyhoo,

congrats on your spawn! hope your remaining fries will grow up healthily! i do agree that your male looks pretty aged, how old is he? looking good, always loved biteniata.

**caseyhoo** · 27th Jun 2007, 07:41

Im not sure how old is the male, sorry... (may be 9months? really forget already, lets me double confirm with the seller).

I had keep them for 2.5 months...
BTW, may i know normally, how long is lifespan for apisto? and how you all judge how old is a apisto?

**galactuz** · 27th Jun 2007, 10:16

Hello Casey,

See you moving over to our neighbours forum because there's where the action is ya?

Some correction to his statement.

This is A.bitaeniata "Peru". Lately I was told that this is also A.bitaeniata "Orange". Yes the pair is almost 9 months old now (6 months when he got it from me).

Illumnae,

Yes some bitaeniata will look the same from different localities but if you got yours from Biotope more than 1 year ago, I suspect we share the same wild shipment from Peru.

**caseyhoo** · 27th Jun 2007, 10:18

Originally Posted by galactuz

This is A.bitaeniata "Peru". Lately I was told that this is also A.bitaeniata "Orange". Yes the pair is almost 9 months old now (6 months when he got it from me).

Oops... I stated from tefe!!!

**illumnae** · 27th Jun 2007, 10:39

Originally Posted by galactuz

Illumnae,

Yes some bitaeniata will look the same from different localities but if you got yours from Biotope more than 1 year ago, I suspect we share the same wild shipment from Peru.

hi galactuz,

mine's not gotten from biotope, it's a juv pair F1 from a reliable bro here (genes). parents are a wild pair from tefe bauna, similar to caseyhoo also an F1 pair =)

**galactuz** · 27th Jun 2007, 14:48

Oh then it's from a different locality.

Tefe variants are well know for it's intense yellow/orangy throat coloration which is absent in the Peru variant.

So try your very best to keep and breed this speciments. It's quite hard to come by nowadays.

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