Blue ram sex

**wks** · 8th Sep 2002, 21:26

I bought a pair of rams recently. Both have a tinge of red at their belly and a high front ray at the dorsal fin. One is smaller than the other. The smaller one has more prominent blue spots. Size about 5-6cm. I observed that they often "kissed" or chased each other. So how to sex the rams?

**wks** · 8th Sep 2002, 21:26

I bought a pair of rams recently. Both have a tinge of red at their belly and a high front ray at the dorsal fin. One is smaller than the other. The smaller one has more prominent blue spots. Size about 5-6cm. I observed that they often "kissed" or chased each other. So how to sex the rams?

**wks** · 8th Sep 2002, 21:26

I bought a pair of rams recently. Both have a tinge of red at their belly and a high front ray at the dorsal fin. One is smaller than the other. The smaller one has more prominent blue spots. Size about 5-6cm. I observed that they often "kissed" or chased each other. So how to sex the rams?

**wks** · 8th Sep 2002, 21:26

I bought a pair of rams recently. Both have a tinge of red at their belly and a high front ray at the dorsal fin. One is smaller than the other. The smaller one has more prominent blue spots. Size about 5-6cm. I observed that they often "kissed" or chased each other. So how to sex the rams?

**acidjc** · 8th Sep 2002, 21:29

female RAm got a Redish belly while male don't..

**wks** · 8th Sep 2002, 21:47

In my case, both fishes have high front ray at the dorsal fin and red tinged belly. So are they male or female? Can someone post a pict of a male and female fish for me?

**Simon** · 8th Sep 2002, 22:22

the female is the one with the red belly

both oso got dorsal extension

**wks** · 9th Sep 2002, 17:08

Simon, thanks for the picture. The question now is whether the female fish exhibits the red colour at its belly during spawning or has the red colour all the time?[

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**vinz** · 9th Sep 2002, 17:10

Mine has it all the time.

**wks** · 9th Sep 2002, 22:44

Damned, looks like I got two male fishes, no wonder they keep fighting each other.[

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Vincent, where do u get your female ram?

**vinz** · 10th Sep 2002, 01:37

Can't remember... is been a while since I got them. I have pics of them in my website gallery. See my sig for the link. I just realised that the pic of the male does not show his red belly colouration. The red on the female and rosy... while on the male its orangy. Here's a lousy pic I just took tonite. Female on the left.

**vinz** · 10th Sep 2002, 09:37

Further observations this morning... may not be clear in the picture.

Both the male and female have the orange colouration just behind the gills, stronger in the male. But, Mrs Ram has the rosy patch after the orange.

**jamesneo** · 10th Sep 2002, 14:11

Vinz, From the pic, it look like those malaysia type of ram. In chinese they call it &quot;Ma Hua qi&quot;.
It's different from those holland ram?
Holland ram have shorter back fin, right?[

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**vinz** · 10th Sep 2002, 14:32

Yah... local type Ram, but the red belly of the females is similar.

**wks** · 10th Sep 2002, 15:08

Vincent, whats the difference between the local ram and the holland/blue ram? Aren't they supposed to be the same?
My rams look like yours.

**vinz** · 10th Sep 2002, 15:29

The colours of the locals are not as strong and they are not as big. The Holland ones have very strong and sharp colours and markings. Also look more robust.

**Samuel Lee** · 29th Sep 2002, 09:50

Hi guys, just want to know where can I get Holland rams, had been looking around seems that it quite difficult to find in LFS, I just lost 3 so looking for a replacement partners for the lonely one in my tank now. thanks

**Trevor** · 6th Oct 2002, 02:06

Maybe u can try checking with Mr. Chan of NA and ask him when is the next shipment of rams. Cause I bought my 2 rams from him few mths ago and there were 2 left.

So decided to buy them cause they look good and wanted to surprise my laopo and family. Very nice and healthy, just that not so robust like what vinz said.

Can try Toh's Farm at Lck. Maybe Teo's too if not wrong..