Replica ADA-type glass lily pipes for nano tanks?

**stephen chung** · 12th Aug 2007, 01:13

Yeah man....Howcome no one makes the inlet like ADA?? all fololw the AquaticMagic...

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 01:25

Originally Posted by valice

Don't you think that the mouth of the pipe abit small for a 3ft?
Heard that it comes only in one size.

lee1224, you have the ADA one? Is it bigger? Or same size?

i never seen the AquaticMagic one in person but so far from the others seems like it only comes in 1 size

I have the ADA outflow P-4
the mouth size is slightly bigger ==> 50mm
think Shadow mentioned this one is about 43mm

and based on The Style of ADA, the ADA ones come in 3 sizes only 40mm, 50mm & 60mm
the biggest one for up to 6-footers also has mouth size 60mm only
so i guess the size difference shouldnt have any significant impact???

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 01:26

Originally Posted by Shadow

my 3ft tank also have braces, I wonder if I can just cut the silicon glue using pen knive and remove the braces. Will that causing a problem? How did they do braceless tank for 3ft and above? or maybe is there any lily pipe design for braces tank?

erhmm, i wouldnt try if i were you
a standard 3 footer holds like 150litres of water plus balance 30kg of soil, rocks, plants and fauna
thats way too much water that is ripe for a potential disaster for me to go fiddle around

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 01:31

Originally Posted by stephen chung

please bro....don't say it out loud dude...I know I need a new tank ok...

Wanted to make a new 6x2.5x2.5 braceless...

hehehe thats sounds like a big project with a big cost!

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 01:35

Originally Posted by Aeon

@ lee1224

I wish Takashi Amano was Tan Ka Shi, a Singaporean and sold everything ADA here...

hehe then you might as well wish you are that Tan Ka Shi

you'll have everything in the list plus lotsa $$$ to boot

Originally Posted by stephen chung

Yeah man....Howcome no one makes the inlet like ADA?? all fololw the AquaticMagic...

that round ball does look like its not easy to clean
but then again so does ADA's
inlet pipes all abit difficult to clean with normal cleaning brush

btw, i have the old triangular-style inlet pipe

the new straight one with slits looks even more difficult to clean

**stephen chung** · 12th Aug 2007, 02:14

I guess you just can't have everything...

**blackBRUSHalgae** · 12th Aug 2007, 02:17

Dang! I have always dream of getting lily pipes, but two things always stop me.

I love my water surface to be calm and clear, therefore I need a skimmer.

secondly, my pump's suction is too strong. Just imagine my skimmer sucks so crazily even though I fully open up the bottom inlet. Even with the bottom fully opened, the suction on the bottom is strong enough to trap my fauna. So I have to solve the issue by taking out the whole skimmer's adjustment device and instead stick a eheim strainer on it. Even if I take out the whole skimmer and use the large eheim inlet strainer, it is still strong enough to trap my fauna.

but my outlet is still decent on my 200L planted tank. The pump that is responsible for this stronge suction is eheim's 2400L/H 1260, which powers both my 2028 and HC300a chiller. The whole system works like a champ though!

**Shadow** · 12th Aug 2007, 10:31

Originally Posted by stephen chung

please bro....don't say it out loud dude...I know I need a new tank ok...

Wanted to make a new 6x2.5x2.5 braceless...

is it possible to maje 6x2.5x2.5 braceless? 3dt already need braces

**Shadow** · 12th Aug 2007, 10:40

Originally Posted by blackBRUSHalgae

Dang! I have always dream of getting lily pipes, but two things always stop me.

I love my water surface to be calm and clear, therefore I need a skimmer.

I also use skimmer, so I just bought the lily pipe outlet and still using the skimmer as inlet. Doesn't look that nice but at least it free of surface film.

How do you guys solve the surface film issue when you use the lily pipe inlet?

I wish somebody design glass surface skimmer that will go nicely with lily pipe outflow

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 15:38

Originally Posted by Shadow

is it possible to maje 6x2.5x2.5 braceless? 3dt already need braces

should be possible
ADA does it braceless - 15mm glass though
if with brace - 12mm glass

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 15:39

Originally Posted by Shadow

I also use skimmer, so I just bought the lily pipe outlet and still using the skimmer as inlet. Doesn't look that nice but at least it free of surface film.

How do you guys solve the surface film issue when you use the lily pipe inlet?

I wish somebody design glass surface skimmer that will go nicely with lily pipe outflow

i thought the lily pipe outlet was supposed to solve the surface film for you?
adjust the height abit so that it disturbs the water surface slightly
some might think it causes co2 to escape but i don't think it is of significant impact
besides, co2 is relatively cheap so you can always compensate by injecting a little more

**Shadow** · 12th Aug 2007, 16:05

Originally Posted by lee1224

should be possible
ADA does it braceless - 15mm glass though
if with brace - 12mm glass

in other word, braceless tank need to have thicker glass

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 16:47

Originally Posted by Shadow

in other word, braceless tank need to have thicker glass

thicker glass definitely
i am not sure thats the only difference though

**valice** · 12th Aug 2007, 17:01

i noticed that ADA seems to be the only people who dares to make a tank this thin. If you buy from local tank makers, a 3ft braceless tank, for example, will be at least 10mm. Anything less, they don't dare to do.

Any reason why? Glass more high grade? Think 6ft braceless tank in Singapore wouldn't be 15mm only.

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 17:10

Originally Posted by valice

i noticed that ADA seems to be the only people who dares to make a tank this thin. If you buy from local tank makers, a 3ft braceless tank, for example, will be at least 10mm. Anything less, they don't dare to do.

Any reason why? Glass more high grade? Think 6ft braceless tank in Singapore wouldn't be 15mm only.

i wouldnt' know..
the glass looks different though - with a blue effect rather than the green we get here
and theirs is all made in germany also

**valice** · 12th Aug 2007, 17:14

I do agree on the blue tint rather than the green tint.
That could possibly be the reason for the premium. ADA tanks also have excellent silicon jobs.

**oblivion** · 12th Aug 2007, 18:03

Originally Posted by valice

I do agree on the blue tint rather than the green tint.
That could possibly be the reason for the premium. ADA tanks also have excellent silicon jobs.

haha, i am basing my belief that the glass is different and of higher quality based on the visual fact that it has a blue tint
i HOPE there is a real quality (in terms of durability) difference for the premium price other than workmanship (germany so should be good???), clarity and blue coloring
they should be lah, since they dare give a 5-year guarantee
i haven;t bought an ADA tank YET, so no personal comments on ADA'a tanks

am more interested in their Superior line, whereby the whole tank is made of 1 whole piece of glass (no silicone!!!)
real pricey though