What should I do with the balloon Ram eggs?

[Shadow]

I just saw Balloon Ram egg spread on the rock, what should I do?

it is a 1.5ftx1ftx1.2ft (H) planted tank. The tank is mixed with 2 other male rams, 3 pathys, 2 otos and 4 cory pygmaeus, should I remove them? The female keep chasing other ram away. My otos color also change to pale.

Can I still do regular weekly water change?

[Interestor]

Well, Ram will take care of their fries in a comm tank, since or if its your first drop, leave it for the parents to take care and monitor.

Of course best advice is removed other tank mates


CHeers..

[Shadow]

that is the problem, I do not have spare tank
Any idea how long does it take for the egg to hatch?

[Interestor]

Sorry bro, not specialise in Ram, but i saw my friends ram in mini pond with other tank mates, the pairs did take care of the fries, but fries # reduce when to 1 cm stage cause of predators.

CHeers..

[exotic]

it better to take other fishes out ..you could get those cheap plastic tank from fish shop.. put in air pump for them then ok liao... when they grow bigger just catch them into that plastic tank then put back those fishes...then you can have those small one safe till they grow bigger that mix them into the old tank..

[jiahe88]

i ever have the fries but tell you something you will happen to saw them gone few days later. .i think is the parents of the rams eat up, and also cory will keep on disturb and cory is very terrible to destroy planted tank. is better to remove or sell away. for my experience.

[Quixotic]

Sorry Robert for being off track, but before someone gets the wrong idea...

... cory will keep on disturb and cory is very terrible to destroy planted tank ...

No, they don't "destroy" planted tanks. They may uproot plants if the plants are not well established in the first place, and certain plants like riccia.

Introduce them after the plants have been planted and well established, provide an open area for them to graze. Dwarf cories are planted tank friendly as well.

FYI, I have Cryptocoryne, hairgrass, Bacopa, Hygrophila, Marsilea in my tank with around 2 dozens Corydoras.

Back on topic, the 3 fishes you mentioned are platies? If these are platies, then Rams will have a harder time fending them off.

[Shadow]

yes Cory does not destroy plant, and my plant root establish already. so I'm not worry about Cory uproot my plant. However, I'm wory that Cory or Otos will eat the egg.

Yup I removed the platies, this fish eat anything.
How about cory and otos? Will the egg ok from them?

Also I'm afraid to disturb the tank too much, in case RAMs have the same behaviour as Discuss where it will eat their own egg.

[Quixotic]

No experience with them, but from what that I have read, the cories and otos are quite small, so your Ram will have more success fending them off. And yes, you are right, when spooked, they will eat their own eggs.

Mileage may vary of course. I would probably leave them as it is now, and see how it goes. Once your Rams have spawned, they will most probably do it again in the future, so if it is not successful this time, there will be a next time.

Let's see other inputs from those who have experience in this.

[Shadow]

hmm... stress Rams is also turning dark like discuss. Does all Cichlids have the same behaviour? it was chased by both couples.

is it save to put rams on apisto tank? 2ft tank with 1 pair apisto

[Shadow]

saw the egg moving today
Only 1/2 of the egg left, not sure way. Either it is eaten by the parent or it was accidentaly move by water flow when I change the water.

Will the fry eat fresh hatch brine shrimps?

[Quixotic]

I almost forgot you have 2 other rams. Try to take them out if they are causing too much stress to the parents. Otherwise, just have to take your chances and see how it goes from time to time.

Their care should not be too much different from Apistogramma fries. So once they are free swimming, they should be able to take newly hatched brine shrimps.

[Shadow]

I take them out yesterday, but today I saw that the mother chasing out the father? I confuse, because previously both parent guarding the egg. Is it because the egg hatch? or they divorce

By the way does rams will spawn with the same male next time? or they will look for new male?

[jiahe88]

i brought around 10pcs of ram and i use to keep the ram and the egg hatch few time never success before. . reason maybe too much life stock inside.

[Shadow]

hmm. thats sad
Does the fry die or eaten by others?

[jiahe88]

From what i know maybe is too many life stock inside the rams tank. is cute to have rear ram but if you still want to continue breeding remove all none related with ram. just keep ram alone see how it works.

rams is very protect them self so the egg hatch think because they want to protect the egg by disturbing by other fish or too stress so they eat up.

IMHO what i been rear ram before. stay happy Shadow i know the feeling when you saw they hatch. when i saw my rams hatch i even more worse go and buy breeding net tank to cover them to prevent disturb by other life stock and cory panda. end up the egg still gone.

i don't know my english will make you understand. cheers

[Aquaculture]

humm.... from what you guys replied. Rams doesn't seem to be an easy fish to breed, how about Apisto? Any advice from successful bros?

[Cacatuoides]

Apistos are definitely much easier to breed!!
Also depends on which species of Apisto too.....
Different species have different levels of requirement..

[Quixotic]

Some information on breeding of M. ramirezi from Cichlid-forum.com.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/m_ramirezi.php

[Shadow]

Thanks bro for the link, Today I saw the male taking care of the fry. I guess they get over with the fight

Interesting behaviour though it seems different than what it was mention on the link.