hi guys.. im using EI for my dosing of NPK and trace now..
saw in the other thread saying that if i dose EI.. and i still got algae.. it should be the co2 ppm problem..
read that i need 30 - 45 ppm?..
here is my tank specs
tank : 2x1x1.3 (15gallon OR 60L)
lighting : 2x36watt PL (4 - 5wpg)
co2 : 2 - 2.5BPS via ceramic diffusor
fert : nutrafin NPK, seachem iron and seachem trace. (EI)
filter: ehiem 2213
its a heavily planted tank...
is my co2 ppm in the correct range?.. or how many ppm should i achieve to ensure a almost algae free tank?
i often found BBA on my outlet rain bar.. and green spotted algae on my tank wall. how do i measure ppm too?
thanks..
get a drop checker to check your co2 ppm. as you're using ADA soil, you can't measure ppm using the kh/ph chart.
4-5WPG is pretty high and you'd probably have to crank up the co2 and ferts to compensate or lower the number of hours you switch your light on per day.
you need stable CO2 around 30ppm. You need somehow measure your CO2 ppm because bps doesn't mean anything. You can use pH vs kH table, assuming you do not have anything that alter pH and kH. You can also use dorp checker.
He is using ADA? then yes the card does not work. Note that drop checker have slow response, 4 to 6 hrs.Originally Posted by illumnae
i on my lighting 8hrs a day.. i wont get a drop checker... way too expensive for me..
guess i'll up my co2 everyday to the max where my fish start to gasp then i'll stop there
anyway other way other then using a drop checker?
Don't get the ADA,, you can get Dymax for about $10
if you are using the gasping method, that should be ok
gasping method isn't accurate either as it depends on your bioload...low bioload and you can get a higher ppm before they gasp, high bioload and you get a lower ppm before they gasp.
as for your lighting, i still stick by what i sayyou need to either up your co2/ferts or lower the lights
I think it should be relatively the same, high bioload mean more CO2 produce by fauna. Assuming the fauna generate lots of CO2, your bps might be less but ppm should be the similar. IMHO
If you do not have any plant that required that light intensity, I would suggest to lower the light. Higher light means algae will grow faster as well
i will still remain my lighting wattage..
thanks shadow for recommandation. any idea where to buy the dymax drop checker? i'll try the gasping method for now.. uping my co2 level slowly little bit day by day.. and increase my nutrafin NPK dosing from 3ml to 3.5ml.. if still algae problem is the same.. i'll get a dymax drop checker
i'll pm you about the dymax drop checker
thanks bro =)
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Hi EvolutionZ,
Read the following thread, Peter has helped me out a lot with the understanding of the CO2 PPM issue.
You'll probably need to calibrate your pH/kH test kit. Once you have the correct pH/kH readings, use AQ's CO2 calculator to check your CO2 PPM.
Takes a bit of trial & error but its achievable.
EDIT: Using the 'gasping' method is a tad bit cruel, don't you think?
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i dun have any test kits.. and using ada soil.. cannot use pH/kH to test for ppm..Hi EvolutionZ,
Read the following thread, Peter has helped me out a lot with the understanding of the CO2 PPM issue.
You'll probably need to calibrate your pH/kH test kit. Once you have the correct pH/kH readings, use AQ's CO2 calculator to check your CO2 PPM.
Takes a bit of trial & error but its achievable.
EDIT: Using the 'gasping' method is a tad bit cruel, don't you think?
for the gasping method. when the fish starts to gasp.. straight away turn down the co2.. won't be cruel la.. haha..
hi guys.. i have increased my co2 till 4bps.. from 2.5. noticed that my moss closer to my lighting is starting to bubble..
and also i did a 50% WC today to restart my EI.. dosing 3.5ml of nutrafin NPK instead of 3ml and 1.8 ml of iron instead of 1.5ml.
tomorrow i shall increase my co2 till 5bps. so far my angels are still behaving normal.
You are going to kill your fishes someday with your total ignorance for things.
Regards,
Peter Gwee
Plant Physiology by Taiz and Zeiger
then please advice me what to do. thats what i was told to do. it won't be possible for me to buy a drop checker now. im having exam soon. unless someone is kind enough to meet me at admiralty to lend me a drop checker. this is the last solution. if you got better method other than saying "find the root of the problem" etc etc.. and telling me to get testkits or a drop checker, do pm me or post here thanks.
Edit : please note that not everybody is born to know everything. when you first started this hobby, i guess you a guy with total ignorance for things too. everybody need to learn. including me. And please don't type till like as if i don't care my fishes at all. i increase my co2 day by day instead of increaseing it till the bps where they start to gasp because i care for my fishes. do get things right before commenting. i won't and i do not torture fishes or anyother living things. maybe you are a guy who knows everything about ppm, pH, kH etc etc when you step into the aqua world. if so, you can go ahead and say to other newbie that they are going to kill their fishes with total ignorance for things.
no offence bro.
cheers
Last edited by EvolutionZ; 27th Sep 2007 at 19:59.
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Hi EvolutionZ,
I don't think anyone has informed you to "find the root of the problem" as yet, infact, we are advising you on the methods that we have used, rather tried & tested. Since your question is to locate the PPM, this is the method that you should use.
Maybe you can post a thread in the Buy/Sell forums and ask if anyone can give you a test kit that they don't need anymore.
If no one can provide you a test kit, probably you can wait after your exams to source out different options.
Still, I do not suggest for you to 'up' your CO2 till your fish pass out. Probably since this is your only option, then maybe what you can do first is to manually remove the algae and once you have the tools, you can then do a check for your CO2 PPM.
Good luck.
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since last time i posted about algae issues.. in different forums... i have been advice to find the root of the problem.. without telling me what to do.Hi EvolutionZ,
I don't think anyone has informed you to "find the root of the problem" as yet, infact, we are advising you on the methods that we have used, rather tried & tested. Since your question is to locate the PPM, this is the method that you should use.
Maybe you can post a thread in the Buy/Sell forums and ask if anyone can give you a test kit that they don't need anymore.
If no one can provide you a test kit, probably you can wait after your exams to source out different options.
Still, I do not suggest for you to 'up' your CO2 till your fish pass out. Probably since this is your only option, then maybe what you can do first is to manually remove the algae and once you have the tools, you can then do a check for your CO2 PPM.
Good luck.
anyway, bro.. im stoping my bps at 4. my fishes are still behaving normally.. feeding crazily.. i have used a card to scarp off those algaes on the wall.
will get a drop checker illumae as recommanded me right after my exam which is around 2 weeks later.. tomorrow my exam starts.
cheers
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Good to hear that you have seeked different opinions on this matter. Also good to hear that you have decided to remove it manually.
Good luck for your exams.
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thanks bro... i am removing algae manually long time ago since when i started having algae..Good to hear that you have seeked different opinions on this matter. Also good to hear that you have decided to remove it manually.
Good luck for your exams.
i will be getting a drop checker instead of kH and pH test kits..
bros here said that using ada soil cannot use kH/pH to gauge PPM. only choice left is the drop checker.. mean while hope my bps which is at 4 now is the correct amount..
will bleach my co2 ceramic diffusor tonight too.
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