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  1. 30th Sep 2002, 16:21 #1
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    How much Will cost to set up 3x2x2 ft marine thak?

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    hi all,

    I wanna to setup a 3x2x2 (10mm) marine tank, which i can got it at $190 w/o sump n the Cabin abt $350. which i using a caster filer like 2217? with a complete set up will cost me how much? wat must i do 1st etc....
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    How much Will cost to set up 3x2x2 ft marine thak?

    hi all,

    I wanna to setup a 3x2x2 (10mm) marine tank, which i can got it at $190 w/o sump n the Cabin abt $350. which i using a caster filer like 2217? with a complete set up will cost me how much? wat must i do 1st etc....
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  3. 30th Sep 2002, 16:21 #3
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    How much Will cost to set up 3x2x2 ft marine thak?

    hi all,

    I wanna to setup a 3x2x2 (10mm) marine tank, which i can got it at $190 w/o sump n the Cabin abt $350. which i using a caster filer like 2217? with a complete set up will cost me how much? wat must i do 1st etc....
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  4. 30th Sep 2002, 16:21 #4
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    How much Will cost to set up 3x2x2 ft marine thak?

    hi all,

    I wanna to setup a 3x2x2 (10mm) marine tank, which i can got it at $190 w/o sump n the Cabin abt $350. which i using a caster filer like 2217? with a complete set up will cost me how much? wat must i do 1st etc....
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    I wanna to setup a 3x2x2 (10mm) marine tank, which i can got it at $190 w/o sump n the Cabin abt $350. which i using a caster filer like 2217? with a complete set up will cost me how much? wat must i do 1st etc....
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    i dun recommend the 2217.. go for 2227.. it is better.. for hardware.. u need hydrometer and a protein skimmers.. anyway.. it is a bit difficult to tell u what price coz it really varies big time... do think abt it.. and read the FAQ.. any other questions just post.. we try to help..
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  6. 30th Sep 2002, 23:47 #6
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    Is the protein skimmer a must??? I've bought one already for my 2 feet tank, sander maxi skim at $79, but I've read in another forum that for my tank (classified as nano) that i do not need one... as it will be unsightly in my small tank (which i rather agree) and it'll remove essential trace element... it recommends weekly 10~15% water changes.... what should I do? sigh
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  7. 1st Oct 2002, 10:52 #7
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    A protein skimmer is not a "must" but would be a "good" addition.
    The Skimmer basically works on the principle of protein remover therefore removing protein before it had the opportunity to breakdown into ammonia...

    This is done by the protein or other elements alhering to tiny bubbles in the water column of the skimmer. so the higher the water column and the smaller the bubbles would mean more time and surface area for the protein to alhere therefore resulting in the efficieny of the Skimmer....

    So without a Protein Skimmer, you just to find other ways to effectively filter your tank water... like lower bioload... more liferock etc....
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  8. 1st Oct 2002, 11:37 #8
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    ok.... but anyway when i operated my skimmer... it just foamed white bubbles and nothing liek those brown foam seen in other setups collected in the cup.. abit disappointed to spent on that and yet dun see any results... Have since removed it from my tank.... perhaps when i add more fishies...
    thanx anyway~!
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  9. 1st Oct 2002, 14:03 #9
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    How effective your skimmer works depends on a few factors..inclusive of salinity...higher salinity, more effective skimming.

    Notice they don't use protein skimmer in FW..

    How's your bioload... ???
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  10. 1st Oct 2002, 14:30 #10
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    Phang is right, efficiency of protein skimmers depend on a lot of factors - even my venturi skimmer needs adjustments every now and then, especially after feeding and applying additives; stuff like Reef Builder and frozen, high-fat foods (sotong etc) make my skimmer berserk, leading to the formation of a large amount of whitish, wet foam. Addition of spirulina, on the other hand, causes it to go flat and not produce any foam for a short time.

    For your case, how heavy is your bioload? In the event that you feed very lightly and if livestock metabolic waste <<< filtration capacity I woudn't expect the skimmer to be able to have any substrate to work on in the first place. In any case, if you're looking to produce dry foam (the brownish-black type), adjust your water column in the skimmer to a slightly lower level - I place my water level at where the reaction column meets the collection cup.

    You're right in saying that skimming depletes nutrients in the water - the way out would either to have very regular water changes (rather expensive in the long run if you change large amounts of water frequently), or using additives. The danger in using additives is just that you might upset the balance of some elements in the water if you're not careful.

    Anyway, to answer ecbm, the setup costs depend very much on the setup you're going for. Fish-only/soft corals/hard corals/SPS tank? The costs involved roughly increases from fish-only to SPS tank, since most people would invest in better lighting and even chillers as well. Also the mode of filtration you're employing contributes to the cost as well - you can go for stuff that range from cannister filters ($100-$300) all the way to using only live rock.

    Would be good if you could share with us your ideas on how you want your tank to be, so that the forum members will be able to answer straight to the point.

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  11. 2nd Oct 2002, 00:10 #11
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    I guess my bioload is rather light thats why nothing came out of the skimmer.... A 2x1x1 tank with only a damsel, 5kg of liverock and few darn forever uncatchable crabs. I feed the fish every alternate days.

    There's a diatom outburst in the tank now... heard that I'm suppose to leave it as its a new tank syndrome right?? It'll go away maybe in months to come right??? Phew its kinda a chore to maintain such a small tank... gotta top up water almost everyday~!!
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    NewDamsel- try to point water flow(output of powerhead or canister)at the diatoms- should go away within a week or so or u can stir the area of the bloom. if u just leave it then it will spread.

    i dun use skimmers in 2ft as well but i don't keep any corals in there either- just holds fish & macro algae,& another just a lobster. All depends on your planned setup.
    Only some marine fishes(like damsels/groupers/eels/wrasses/triggers are forgiving to water quality-they can even be kept with UGF's. Many others are not- tags/butterfly etc.

    If u can manage regular water changes then all the better. every 14days is reg.enough & not more than 20%. A 2ft still holds a fair amount of water abt US 10gals- unlike really small nano's (5ltrs/10ltrs)then should change water every day or week.
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