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    Boraras spp. and Celestichthys margaritatus (sp. "Galaxy")

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    Initially, my boraras are very active. But now they are hidding after I introduce few sp. "Galaxy".

    Could someone enlighten me what went wrong???

    Note: Current tank consists of 50 Boraras, 9 sp. "Galaxy" & ?? Cherry Shrimps.
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    FYI, do note that the term sp. "Galaxy" is also something that is being used for other type of fishes. So to avoid confusion, try to use their scientific name, Celestichthys margaritatus.

    C. margaritatus are a little larger and somewhat quarrelsome. So their territorial displays may put off some of your Boraras spp.

    How big is your tank? If they are eating well and healthy, I don't see why it should be a problem.

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    35x25x25 cm tank.

    Presently, the Boraras I have are B. brigittae and B. merah. When I giving them micro pellet food, they start moving around for the food. Few minute later, they hide. After that, I giving them food again, they moving, eating and lastly hidding.

    Initially, I thought they "might" not use to the new tankmate. But 5 days passed, they still hidding.

    In fact, my C. margaritatus were also hidding for 2-3 days. But now, they start to swim around and "play".

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    Do watch the bioload, 60+ faunas for a 1 foot tank is really on the high side in my opinion. Personally, 30 is the maximum-maximum I would stock so that they would have much more swimming real estate, and not "confront" one another at every sight.

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    Hmm...

    My 50 boraras were active before C. margaritatus added into the tank. They were more active after cherry shrimps added.
    Last edited by Quixotic; 9th Jul 2007 at 13:32. Reason: Please refrain from SMS lingo, thanks.

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    Hmm, I don't quite understand what bioload has to do with active or not. I did mention this though:

    Quote Originally Posted by Quixotic View Post
    C. margaritatus are a little larger and somewhat quarrelsome. So their territorial displays may put off some of your Boraras spp.
    What this means is that your Boraras spp. are probably not used to the quarrelsome behaviour of C. margaritatus. They will need more time to get use to this, also possibly partly due to your stocking level (too many fishes in a small tank).

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    Roger! I will monitor for another 1 week and necessary remove the C. margaritatus from the tank.

    Thanks
    Last edited by Quixotic; 9th Jul 2007 at 23:42. Reason: SMS lingo, spelling

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    Very funny...

    Today, I bought 2 "Golden nana" and planted in my tank. After a while (about 3hrs later, feeding time), my boraras became active.

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    Generally, plants make fishes feel safer and comfortable as there are more hiding places.

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    Recently acquired some of these beauties to my 2FT setup.
    Facing the same problems as nys as my B. brigittae have all gone "MIA" after the addition of about 10 Celestichthys margaritatus (sp. "galaxy").
    Tank fauna are as followed:
    1)10 B. brigittae
    2)10Celestichthys margaritatus (sp. "galaxy")
    3)8 pgmy cordoras
    4)unknown number of cherry red shrimps?
    5)3 otos
    Hiding space should not be an issue as i believe i have sufficient hiding space within my tank.Refer to attached picture for reference in regards to setup.Question is,does the inclusion of Celestichthys margaritatus (sp. "galaxy") affect other fauna within the tank?Any other similar incidents happening with fellow bros whom are also keeping this beautiful species?
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    Doesn't it make sense that much smaller fishes will tend to hide when there are larger fishes around? I would say that it is normal, besides they are still getting used to new tankmates.

    Eventually, perhaps you may not see them as much anymore, because of the presence of larger fishes, but they will show themselves every now and then. Mileage will vary.

    If you want visibility, perhaps it's better to keep fishes similar in size.

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    Most of my B. brigittae till now still hiding. On the other hand, I have intro B. uropthalmodies and maculatus in my tank and they are "bravely" swimming around.

    In addition, C. margaritatus only slightly bigger than Boraras and they are hidding too. One interest thing I noticed was they become active when the environment was "dark".

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    Eventually, I would not be too bothered if they are healthy and well.

    If I really want visibility, I would keep them all in an entirely bare tank, no plants, no decorations so I see them all the time. (I think they may get sick of seeing my face pressed against the tank glass)

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    Haha,but that would defeat the entire point of setting up a planted tank no?
    On a side note,hypothetically speaking let's say if i were to get myself say another 20 B. brigittae...would the increase in numbers of the species actually make the fish bold enough to school together and venture the tank as compared to being intimidated by the slightly bigger Celestichthys margaritatus (sp. "galaxy") that were previously in same numbers?
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    Perhaps, but there are no guarantees. No harm trying, as long as there isn't a problem with the bioload.

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    Alright then,thanks alot for the information!
    Will probably get a few more B. brigittae to compensate the shy nature of the small scholl residing within my tank!
    Will keep you guys on the situation soon!

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    Surprise surprise!
    After the addition of 10 B. brigittae,they began to school again!
    Probably due to the newer 10 exploring the tank,my previous batch began to join in and start exploring the tank as well!
    Also possibly due to the presence of other fauna,they've been schooling rather tightly!
    Sometimes even with the 10 Celestichthys margaritatus (sp. "galaxy").
    All looks well for the moment,will update again!

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