Please identify the gender of my Apistogramma agassizii 'Tefe'

**wasabi8888** · 10th Nov 2007, 22:26

Hi all

As some of you already know, I cant manage to identify the sex of my Ap Agassizii Tefe.

Please see the photos in my gallery and let me know what you think.

Pics are not taken well and tank glass is dirty.

http://picasaweb.google.com/booboosn...nderValidation

**illumnae** · 11th Nov 2007, 00:04

looks like a female to me

**wasabi8888** · 11th Nov 2007, 00:22

Boo Hoo Hoo....

now i have 2 females + 1 stunted juvenile (not sure what is the gender)

Not sure what to do with them

**benny** · 11th Nov 2007, 02:37

I'm not too sure. Could well be a male too. Might be too early to tell.

Cheers,

**wasabi8888** · 11th Nov 2007, 03:05

Well, prob have to wait for a while before I can determine I suppose..

THe tail is rather rounded thus I felt it was more of a female. The prob is cannot remember how old the fishes are...

Any other thoughts from anyone?

**ccs** · 11th Nov 2007, 08:59

I'm with illumnae i believe it is a female too.

**wks** · 11th Nov 2007, 09:46

Based on your photos, I think its a female. If you have a confirmed male, try pairing and watch its reaction. Btw, how old is this Apistogramma agassizii "Tefe"i?

**wasabi8888** · 11th Nov 2007, 11:36

Hey all

I did an estimated age of the fishes by looking at my earlier posts. I think those fishes came out in June 07. This means that they are about 5 months old. Does this help?

**taygu** · 11th Nov 2007, 16:27

Looks like a female to me too..

**Samuel2618** · 28th Nov 2007, 13:34

Hi.. I think it's a female too.. I had a pair before but I lost the male a couple of days back.. so now the poor lonely female is on her own...

(Edit: Your question has been split to this post, http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ad.php?t=34627)

**trident** · 28th Nov 2007, 14:11

female, if male would have looked like the one in your avatar

**wasabi8888** · 28th Nov 2007, 15:34

I beginning to think it's a male. The caudual fin is starting to have patterns... let's wait a while more and see

**stormchild** · 28th Nov 2007, 17:03

it's a girl.

**marle** · 28th Nov 2007, 21:20

i think its a female too.

**wiki** · 28th Nov 2007, 23:23

Female. First 2 rays on dorsal fin is black in color. Anal fin & caudal fin are both rounded.

**wasabi8888** · 30th Nov 2007, 15:34

Originally Posted by wiki

Female. First 2 rays on dorsal fin is black in color. Anal fin & caudal fin are both rounded.

Hmmm..

If the tail coloring is coming out, does that mean it could be male? When i say coloring, it means the black and white bars (?) that is predominate in Tefes.

**wiki** · 1st Dec 2007, 00:20

Based on the photos you uploaded, the specimen doesn't seem to show any coloring or patterns in the tail you mentioned. I think many of the guys who answered your post will agree.

There are cases where a young female look alike turns out to be a male instead. That happens frequently in the wild, especially when the habitat size is extremely crowded during dry season and plenty of aggression between males vying for space.

**trident** · 1st Dec 2007, 00:31

The chance of a sneaker male is always there, my pair of caca turn out to be 2 males.
The dominant male will cause the other male to adopt a more feminine look to avoid getting whacked. I separated the 2 males and after a while the sneaker male begin to color up and patterns appeared on the tail and begin to look like a male.
So, I guess if you really want to find out if the "female" is a male, separate them and let it develop. Check out this link, you can see the sneaker male turned into a male. http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...ad.php?t=30921