Can Altum/angels coexist with Discus in the same tank?

**Simon** · 9th Oct 2002, 22:32

for more than 1.5yrs, my Tefe green was doing fine in my 6ft until I added 10 altums 1 month ago, now.. I jus lost the biggest Tefe green i have.. the previous bacth I had, oso end up the same, leaving only the altums.. my query, is it due to the fact, discus cannot compete with altums for food? or like an article in a foreign site stating that Altums carry parasite that Discus is prone to?

I'm soooo sad [

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**Simon** · 9th Oct 2002, 22:32

for more than 1.5yrs, my Tefe green was doing fine in my 6ft until I added 10 altums 1 month ago, now.. I jus lost the biggest Tefe green i have.. the previous bacth I had, oso end up the same, leaving only the altums.. my query, is it due to the fact, discus cannot compete with altums for food? or like an article in a foreign site stating that Altums carry parasite that Discus is prone to?

I'm soooo sad [

]

**Simon** · 9th Oct 2002, 22:32

for more than 1.5yrs, my Tefe green was doing fine in my 6ft until I added 10 altums 1 month ago, now.. I jus lost the biggest Tefe green i have.. the previous bacth I had, oso end up the same, leaving only the altums.. my query, is it due to the fact, discus cannot compete with altums for food? or like an article in a foreign site stating that Altums carry parasite that Discus is prone to?

I'm soooo sad [

]

**Simon** · 9th Oct 2002, 22:32

for more than 1.5yrs, my Tefe green was doing fine in my 6ft until I added 10 altums 1 month ago, now.. I jus lost the biggest Tefe green i have.. the previous bacth I had, oso end up the same, leaving only the altums.. my query, is it due to the fact, discus cannot compete with altums for food? or like an article in a foreign site stating that Altums carry parasite that Discus is prone to?

I'm soooo sad [

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**rain** · 9th Oct 2002, 22:41

simon, i always think that angels r more robust and move much quicker than discus. true?

**Simon** · 9th Oct 2002, 22:48

yes, very true... but my tefe green died of (what I thght was a hole in the head) but, he died within 3 days

I oso think the altum stress them out.. now I'm down to one tefe green [

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**rain** · 9th Oct 2002, 23:03

if i remember correctly, hole in the head is caused by copper in the water .. however i do not kow how to get rid of Cu ....

**Simon** · 9th Oct 2002, 23:13

actually i read that its due to poor water condition, but in both situation, there was altums in the same tank, thats y I wanna believe its parasite from the altums... nevertheless, I oso believe the discus died from something else, which i dunno what it is... a healthy discus dying in 3 days sounds too weird for me

**rain** · 9th Oct 2002, 23:14

so there wasnt any signs of distress at all?

**Simon** · 9th Oct 2002, 23:17

yeah, imagine suddenly 10 ppl surround u in the room... sigh

**rain** · 9th Oct 2002, 23:17

stress.............

**rain** · 9th Oct 2002, 23:18

HLLE

read above for more information.

and they did mention STRESS to predispose HLLE.

**Simon** · 9th Oct 2002, 23:33

ya, i oso suspected HITH, but according to the article, is not fatal in the short term, which really puzzle me

**jon** · 10th Oct 2002, 00:27

hi

its not advisable to keep angels with discus, even tho they're from the same waters.

there's a form of parasite thats usually present in angels which is pretty dangerous for discus. this may be why your discus died.

maybe u can look ard the web for more info.

jon.

**budak** · 10th Oct 2002, 09:39

ya, i read about some potent parasite on altums in the latest FAMA mag too. Dun too sad hor, think lor, if 10 big AQ members come one day and stay put at your house and poke poke here and there, you will also have stress bar and headache.

**Simon** · 10th Oct 2002, 10:15

i read that b4, harmless to the altum but fatal to the discus.. I will give up the idea of having both altums and discus together

**rain** · 10th Oct 2002, 23:11

wise choice simon.

**wee** · 11th Oct 2002, 01:08

BTW anyone know if Gan still has the small altum available? thinking of getting them when i go down to see Teo's 9' tank. will i have problem mixing them with 100+ tetras in a 4x2x2 tank?

thanks.

**Simon** · 11th Oct 2002, 07:59

yes, if yr tetra r big, shldnt be a prob

**akoh** · 11th Oct 2002, 09:07

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if 10 big AQ members come one day and stay put at your house and poke poke here and there, you will also have stress bar and headache.

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To make matter worst, What if one of the member bring along flu and cough bugs, you'll get it too ! [

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Wild caught fishes usually have some form of harmful parasites in their system, hence it's advisable to Q and treat newly purchase fishes before introducing them to the main tank. Soli for ur loss, Cheer-up man ! bro !.

Safe Diving !
akoh

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