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    My Apistogramma cacatuoides spawned again, with a different male

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    On monday just bought a male Apistogramma cacatuoides "Orange Flash" from Clementi 328 to pair up with the female. They seems to pair up well. The female caca had already breed once, but the partner just passed away.
    Today very suprise to notice some eggs lay under the wood and the female is faning and guarding them. So can the eggs be fertiled just within 3 days? Can anyone comment.
    Also the male is "orange flash", but the female belong to "yellow" colour, so what should the colour of their baby turn up be?




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    Nice bushy tank. . I got my caca and within the third days they are laying their eggs. So it is possible.

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    Thanks. Shall I start to add the "Liquidfry" for the eggs?
    Another questions, I read from the internet that the eggs should be in fire red colour, mine appear to be in white colour, is this healthy?
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    Ram,
    Congrats! what happened to the first batch?
    Eggs will turn white if they are not fertilized.
    No liquidfry lah, that is for fries when free swimming.
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    There is a 50/50 chance the eggs could've been fertilised before the male passed on. However, ripe females have been known to lay eggs even without any male presence. Under such circumstance, she will usually consume the unfertilised eggs after a few days.

    I assume when you say the female is 'Yellow' in color, you are referring to her spawning coloration. Ripe females are always Yellow. I personally do not encourage crossings between color morphs of the same complex.

    About your question, X genes from the male would usually prevail and be passed down to his brood. To be conservative, you should get half of them with the father's bloodline.

    You should know after 72 hours if there are wrigglers or not. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by trident View Post
    Ram,
    Congrats! what happened to the first batch?
    Eggs will turn white if they are not fertilized.
    No liquidfry lah, that is for fries when free swimming.
    That female was from you. Her colour is yellow, I am not sure it belong to which specific varities? The first batch of fries was successful raised, about 8 piece now are in adult size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiki View Post
    There is a 50/50 chance the eggs could've been fertilised before the male passed on. However, ripe females have been known to lay eggs even without any male presence. Under such circumstance, she will usually consume the unfertilised eggs after a few days.

    I assume when you say the female is 'Yellow' in color, you are referring to her spawning coloration. Ripe females are always Yellow. I personally do not encourage crossings between color morphs of the same complex.

    About your question, X genes from the male would usually prevail and be passed down to his brood. To be conservative, you should get half of them with the father's bloodline.

    You should know after 72 hours if there are wrigglers or not. Good luck!
    Thanks, your comments are very informative.

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    Yeah, the eggs from my caca was pinky red. You can check it out in my thread.

    Anyway, you will know after 3-4 days.

    Dont need to add any liquidfry. The fries will feed on microorganism on leaves and plants.

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    Ram,
    I am so jealous, after selling you the female, my pair didn't breed until now. Just got a small batch of fries about 5 days old.
    Your female could be the orange flash, mine is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    That female was from you. Her colour is yellow, I am not sure it belong to which specific varities? The first batch of fries was successful raised, about 8 piece now are in adult size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mobile2007 View Post
    Yeah, the eggs from my caca was pinky red. You can check it out in my thread.

    Anyway, you will know after 3-4 days.

    Dont need to add any liquidfry. The fries will feed on microorganism on leaves and plants.
    You mean after 3-4 days, the eggs should turn pinky red? Otherwise the eggs are unfertiled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trident View Post
    Ram,
    I am so jealous, after selling you the female, my pair didn't breed until now. Just got a small batch of fries about 5 days old.
    Your female could be the orange flash, mine is.
    If the female is orange flash, then they are a perfect pair. So the baby won't be mixed-blood. Thanks anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram View Post
    You mean after 3-4 days, the eggs should turn pinky red? Otherwise the eggs are unfertiled?
    The food you feed your fish will have an effect on the coloration of her eggs. Egg coloration can be beige or yellowish white too, not necessarily pink. It doesn't mean if the eggs are fertilised, they will turn pinky red.

    Unfertilised eggs or bad ones will turn solid white. However, you should not be overly worried about this because the female will usually care for her brood. Just make sure you don't do any sudden changes in your tank or frighten her, the brood should be safe, most times.
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    Bad news, this morning notice all eggs missing, probably been eaten up by the female. Hope the next breeding will be a better one.

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    Does the female still guarding some corners? If no, then the eggs have been eaten. The female will moved the eggs to the substrate once the eggs turned wriggler.

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    Ram,
    If the eggs are no longer there, nevermind lah, just wait a week or two and I am sure they will spawn again.
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