Apistogramma cacatuoides from Careiro

**benetay** · 29th Dec 2007, 02:30

Was browsing around and saw this. Not sure if anybody posted this before.

Wild fish caught in amazon from K2.

convert to SGD about $447 for a solid pair from Japan.

Source taken from www.rva.ne.jp

**cricha** · 29th Dec 2007, 02:53

Simply beautiful but .... after conversion to M'sian ringgit = rm1026

**benetay** · 29th Dec 2007, 02:57

Sad but true, the norm for a solid pair carries a heavier price tag on it's shoulders. Even if it's the common A.caca. Being a fan of A.caca i will really like to have this pair given a chance. Since A.caca are easy to breed by nature. It will be a good buy. Can always be shared among a few members and split the fries later. Shouldn't be too expensive if shared among 2 or 3 potential buyers. Considering that it spawn.

**doubleace** · 29th Dec 2007, 07:56

Wow... this is a beautiful caca wild i've ever seen among all the caca that i seen in the fish shop. But the price also nice too...

Like what everybody are saying.. If you want higher standard then you got to pay more.

**benny** · 29th Dec 2007, 08:49

Oh!!! I remember this! Often talked about but never seen locally!

Very impressive markings and coloration!

Cheers,

**Zenislev** · 29th Dec 2007, 10:03

Simply gorgeous...

**illumnae** · 29th Dec 2007, 10:34

stunning fish! is it a young specimen?

wonder how much such quality elizabethae and bitaeniata would cost

**yorky** · 29th Dec 2007, 10:34

IMHO, nothing special.
Red pigmentation is due to intense 'flaring' which is also commonly found in other A. caca, A. bitaeniata, A. paucisquamis, A. gibbiceps, etc.
My only suspicion is that the collection point of Careiro for A. caca is few and far between.
By the way, A. caca from Careiro usually costs about S$200.
For S$400, I would go for A. Jurua.
Just my 3 cents worth.

**Cacatuoides** · 29th Dec 2007, 11:18

Very stunning Caca!! But why is the coloration and markings so different from its usual Cacas?

Its price tag is a little heavy for me unless shared by a few bros and split the fries later

ps. Hi Benetay, where did you find the price tag for this fish from? thanks

**benny** · 29th Dec 2007, 14:04

Originally Posted by yorky

Red pigmentation is due to intense 'flaring' which is also commonly found in other A. caca, A. bitaeniata, A. paucisquamis, A. gibbiceps, etc.
My only suspicion is that the collection point of Careiro for A. caca is few and far between.

I would agree that the red pigmentation is not very special and certain photography techniques can highlight them better and create a misconception of the fish 'usual' coloration.

What is interesting for me is the patterns.marking on the anal and caudal fins. Not typical for Apistogramma cacatuoides, at least not the wild ones that I've previously seen. It's almost similar the those on the Apistogramma mendezi!!

Cheers,

**genes** · 29th Dec 2007, 14:20

I thought they looked more like those of an Ap. paucisquamis.

**benetay** · 29th Dec 2007, 17:44

Nice easy to breed A.caca with the marking of paucis & mendezi lookalike. I got the price from RVA website, they have a purchase section which stated 15000 yen after tax per pc.

Hope to see such beauty in our local tanks.

**valice** · 30th Dec 2007, 00:51

Originally Posted by benny

I would agree that the red pigmentation is not very special and certain photography techniques can highlight them better and create a misconception of the fish 'usual' coloration.

This is so true.
Very often the real thing looked so different from the photos.

Remembered that there was this discussion that the red pigmentation is most intense when flaring at an opposing male and less when against a female.