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Ryan,
How are you planning to attach the plants to your background?
but i'm looking into the possibility of whether i just MiGhT have to take it out to replant java moss?
if i have to do this then it'll be a real pain to take out of the gravel or even worse! remove silicon!
Ryan,
How are you planning to attach the plants to your background?
i'll use stapler and the green plastic coated wire used for gardening...----------------
On 11/10/2002 11:40:58 PM
Ryan,
How are you planning to attach the plants to your background?
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to secure the moss to the wall...
hello?
Hello hatchet
I didn't know this thread would pop back to life.
Thks for your feedback... I will keep the Taiwan brand in mind when I ready to get one.
cheers!
mike
Resistance is futile, you will be administrated!
Not a good idea to remove the background once it's set up. It's going to be tough to put back in.
Vincent - AQ is for everyone, but not for 'u' and 'mi'.
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A woman: without her, man is nothing.
Vinz, I do beg to differ- my backing is attached by binder clips but it is only touching the gravel level - the only trouble is you've gotta fill up the gravel to the right height to prevent shrimps from going to the back. the other consideration is to leava a margin between the plants and the backing when you plan your layout - if you can do all these, taking out the backing and replacing it should not be a problem [well, at least it is so...[
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Oh, I might as well describe how I did my styro backing - I measured the backing such that it fits the tank just right - the silicon on the edges of the side @ the back of the tank will help prevent any shrimps from circumventing the backing via the sides. as for the height of the backing - it helps to have it pressed a little into the gravel - I did not foresee this so had to 'top-up' later. so Ryan, hopes this help.
Now to reply to benetay, no, you don't need 3 hrs to push the thing into a filled tank [. and with a bit of coordination and a whole lot of FORCE (sorry for the pun, can't help it) - we managed to pushed it down the water level and immediately on goes the clips, phew!
. so far so good...
well i think i'll just do it sherchoos way...
but then i'll have trouble doing my moss wall...
i'm thinking of stapling it to the wall...but i'm not sure if it'll stay...
how? anyone with any suggestions?
anakin, the fishing line messy right? difficult to tie down right?
Fishing line is not messy, IMO. just damn troublesome - I had to spend a full 1 1/2 hr tying up the moss. Had to keep the moss constantly wet with a spray. actually the original fishing line I had was so fine that you can't see it underwater (there's actually vertical lines running across the wall, but the second reel I got - wh formed the horiziontal lines - is thicker and can be seen -evident from my pics
But i am reckoning I can even afford to remove the lines altogether once the moss has estb itself (if ever...)
Hi anakin
Nice backdrop! I was admiring it this morning when some urgent matters cropped up... I told myself I'll go home and log on again and continue admiring it... and perhaps plagiarise it at some pt later[
It looked like you have fishing line going round and round the backdrop in a horizontal fashion, right? Am I seeing the right thing here - that you have so many turns, or was it the horizontal texture of the backdrop??? How long did you take to tie the moss (correct??) to the backdrop (I assume having the moss out of water too long would have some detrimental effects of it?). And where in the world did you get that whole lot of moss?
What I intend to do for my 5ft dream tank later is to have a combination of Java fern, Windelov fern and moss interspersed on the backdrop. Until that day comes, I try to learn as much as possible.
cheers!
mike
Hiya Mike:
Mike, actually I had to tie the line vertically too - so they lines form a grid-like net over the moss. and yes, those lines that you are seeing are the fishing lines - ran out of the very fine one that I used for the vertical lines. (That is also why you can only see the horizontal lines----------------
On 11/13/2002 9:55:57 PM
It looked like you have fishing line going round and round the backdrop in a horizontal fashion, right? Am I seeing the right thing here - that you have so many turns, or was it the horizontal texture of the backdrop??? How long did you take to tie the moss (correct??) to the backdrop (I assume having the moss out of water too long would have some detrimental effects of it?). And where in the world did you get that whole lot of moss?
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I bought my moss from Chan - if you're interested just tell him the dimension of the moss wall and he'd advise you on the quantity. I bought a whole trayful from Chan - would like to get more - but he was limited by his harvest. Basically if you can just estimate the amount by spreading out the moss - if it can sufficiently cover the wall area - you're fine.
and to keep the moss alive, all you have to do is to keep it moist - here you can keep your imagination run wild, but I used a spray (those you use for watering gardening plants) on the moss every 5 - 10 min, But I had Amidala to thanks for this again [
oh no!
then maybe tomorrow chan won't have any more moss for me!
i need quite alot too!
enough for 4ft backdrop and 2 feet backdrop!
damn...[]
Ryan, why not just Chan to reserve first? He'll do that for you as long as he has the stock. You'll need at least 1 1/2 tray of Chan's Taiwan moss then...if you need help - just call me lah!
Stapling is not such a good idea as the metal staplers will rust. There were some suggestion back where someone metioned using plastic staplers. If it is available, it will surely be a much easier job.
Juz a thinker
Thanks, anakin for enlightening!
A little digression...
I saw your beautiful sketch. You must have a lot of artistic blood flowing in your veins! My doctor colleagues call me an artist (although I am something else by profession) because I help them do medical ilustrations for publication in medical journals...no formal training in art but good enough to be admitted as member of the US Georgia-based Assn of Medical Illustrators.
Great sketch, I must say!
cheers!
mike
just checking,
silicon the styrofoam to a glass backing, heavy enough not to float up, the glass should be long enough so that the uncovered area goes INTO the substrate while the the rest of the styrofoam covers rest of the tank height.
the entire thing should stick to the back of the tank by virtue of surface tension (lol or casimir effect...hah)
you can easily remove it to scrub it down of algae or even replace styrofoam, I'm pondering whether to do this myself but I'm worried about it being an algae magnet
loupgarou, I think the moss wall is as good an algae magnet as your tank wall, IMO. just have a good algae control crew - shrimps do a fine job, I think. and keep the water para in check - algae prob should be checked. my shrimps like to stick around the moss and gravel, so I think their doing their job. so far so good - just a bit of algae on my tank wall after 2 weeks.
Mike, thanks for your compliments. BTW, are you local (S'porean)?
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