aquanatix, sorry for my bad English, it can be mistaken as hostile.Originally Posted by aquanatix
whoah...lighten up? Sound so hostile?
The guy is just sharing with us his pride and joy so pro or not..it's all good?
Marle, sorry for my counterfactual English. Sometimes, false English in posts doesn't mean that that particular post is useless. On the contrast, some posts are written in good English and bombastic words, but the posts does not helps and some are even useless therefore wasting server space.
I didn't know this forum cannot allow us to give comments that are different from others. Is that the forum view or your personal view?
I find that recently, there are more & more all white shrimplet breed from hobbist & also from Lfs.
I was a batches of shrimplet, 2 hino, 1 mosura & 1 all white selling at $120 at NA last Saturday.
So, which means percentage of the CRS we had from bros here & Lfs carry golden gene.
Agreed. For those who doesn't have good english is at an disadvantage, even they want to share their experience to everyone.
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It depends, many of the hobbyists refused to get from that shop, because they have been using golden genes to short cut to get higher grade, at the expenses of poor color even though the price is dirt cheap and that reflect the quality. Those like quality and no golden genes will go to Colorful, the shop next to NA.
Too bad, AF is down, else you guys can read a long thread on Golden CRS is used to mix with CRS to mean for sales.
Why golden is bad to me?? Because the trend of CRS now is emphasize on color, no longer grade or pattern. In japan and taiwan, a deep red, thick white color CRS can cost 3 times more then normal CRS. If a piece of deep red, thick white CRS is from a famous breeder, it can even cost 10x more.
What is so special about deep red line? It is not breed using golden CRS, and it not bred using all-white crs or golden crs. And I start to learn to tell the differences between the characteristics of deep red line CRS.
Bro lyn,Hmm not good? I think I saw one like this on a jap website and they were selling like 7k sing dollars per piece. Bro douglas would you mind sharing what do you mean by golden and why is this piece not good? From a commoner view point I think it is a pretty nice piece of crs
Mosura with flower head is different from all-white/golden crs. Mosura with flower head can cost $3000, but a best all-white CRS at most is $100, generally lower.
actually i have seen a mosura with flower head which can be called top grade CRS. if i am not wrong, the mosura belongs to silane. silane if you are there, hope you can come in and share the pics.So we call can see the difference between extreme flowerhead and golden crs.
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Hi kensk, nice shrimp! It's always a great joy to see newborn shrimplets.. Keep up the good work!
Bro mtanec, let's not make it sounds like a this forum against that forum affair, shall we..By the way, many of us here are actually members of both forum, even the moderators included. Futhermore, you are not just a passerby, you are a member here as well... cheers!
Bro douglas™, I personally believe that AQ promote the use of proper english so that visitors from other parts of the world will be able to surf the forum with no problem. You are not required to use bombastic words, just simple english without sms lingo and short form so that others can understand you; for example: congratz..
This forum does allow us to express our comments in a positive and constructive way that are different from others. However, I do notice that you are commenting on other people's comment instead. So does that means that you do not allow others to express a different view?
Anyway, let's us all get back to the topic of this post..
Oh I see,
No wonder their red & white are so solid, but dirt cheep price. As they used golden gene.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
It seems that more hobbyists have realised that cheap doesn't mean good, the number of CRS packs in NA did not get reduce over weekend, it show that the demand of good genes and good lineage is increasing in Singapore. Colorful told me, despite his neighour cheap price, his CRS is still selling well.
Bro Merviso,
Are you targeting at newbies like me?
Why no one highlight old members who use SMS lingo or short form? Shouldn't the rules be applied to members across the board?
hope you guys can change the mindset and give me a chance as i am still new to this forum.
you are very right! your information is excellent.
In addition, the body shape can be different too.
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Growing old with this forum.. :)
kensk, can you share with us why only 4 shrimplets survived? Thought the survival rate should be much higher?
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Hi Bro douglas™, first of all, I like to say that I do not see you as a newbie. Anyway, I think this is the first time I ever talk about the use of english and sms lingo in AQ. Our moderators here has been doing a great job with this matter.
I'm only stating my personal opinion of what you have stated earlier. By the way, I did notice that even moderators with short forms and spelling error get corrected in this forum. People do sometimes make mistake; just don't make it a habit.
We will welcome anyone who is here with positive and constructive participation.
Never create what you can't control
Don't need to be senstive if there are disagreements in view points, they are just trying to be helpful.
These are for all members:
Moderators don't have the time solely just to sit here staring at the screen, looking at every post. They do have their day time jobs, and other responsibilities (e.g. family) as well. And they, like everyone else, are mere mortals.
Just a reminder to all that the forum is not just for Singaporeans alone, there are many members from other countries, and some where English are not their first language, so be mindful and think before you post.
Please let it be known that SMS related language and unnecessary shortforms (e.g. gr8, cuz, mi, ur) are strongly discouraged in our forums. Singlish (e.g. lah, rojak, alamak, act cute) is fine as long as you don't overuse it and devalue the content of discussed topics.
Do note that etiquettes and rules here may differ from other forums, so all members should kindly respect and abide them.
And lastly, we would like to seek the co-operation of members to leave the forum rules and such matters to the moderators so as to facilitate better handling and avoid any unnecessary misunderstandings.
Thanks and greatly appreciated.
Now let us all get back to the topic of fish keeping!
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anyway guys, lets get back to the topic..
in my opinion, in chinese there is a saying : Yi fen qian, yi fen huo. meaning you pay for $120 for a mix of 2 hino, 1 mosura and 1 full white, you get the quality for such cheap prices. yes, i fully agree with douglas. even though NA is selling such cheap crs.. Colourful is still selling more and more crs. i believe his genes are good. i often visit his place just to admire his crs at the back of the shop..
anyway kensk, i would also like to know why the survival rate of your crs is so low?
Thanks! Now searching for better alternatives. Currently only using Canon S3.kensk,
i think you need an SLR with a 100mm macro lens to show the true beauty of your CRS...
good job!
It is always interesting to see what the CRS tank can produce. Never failed to surprise me since starting my first CRS tank 3 years ago. Sometimes will get unusual pattern like parallel line instead of normal V-band like this:
I only started to do selective breeding in early 2007. So took quite a while to get some results.
I guess the mother shrimp dropped quite a number of eggs. It was her first batch. Now it is pregnant again. Hope will have bigger brood next.
This is a very controversial topic that varies very much from time period, experience of the breeders, and what the breeder want to achieve. There is no right or wrong. It goes with your own taste.
In Japan and Taiwan, it appears that the pro golden genes camp is defeated, the pure CRS/red bee shrimp genes interest has revived the price of red bee shrimps into a new height. Just saw a transaction of deep red line CRS, just a hinomaru, a female hinomaru is sold over $S1000 in Japan, Hakata, that is compare with other hinomaru that worth anything less then $S100. Deep red line as far as I know now, does not run into golden genes, as the name applies it is deep red and very thick white. This is one of the strains that many wants now and wants to achieve.
Color has great influence in price then pattern now. You can see it when a "deep red" hinomaru can cost over $1000 while a normal genes crown cost less than $500
The pursue of pattern is over by pro breeders, quite a number top breeders has reach the end of CRS pattern pursue by having flower head that just has a tiny patch of red (not golden CRS). Most of the pro breeders run into golden CRS because of blood gets too thick when they hit good head pattern mosura.
So now, they make a U-turn to pursue color. See the below picture, that mosura with a head pattern not as nice compare with the one in my avartar, but yet the one in the picture below costs more.
Look at leeruisheng's post, he had been keeping CRS when there wasn't golden crs, there wasn't mosura, he spells the pro and cons there.
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silane
You meant the pro breeders hit a snag when they reached the summit? Like the kungfu master trained too hard until they 走火入魔
Yes, sort of... in the course of pursue pattern, I can safely say all pro breeders that has extreme patterns has mutated to golden genses. When they sell SSS to SSSS, some will declare to seller that their stock may breed out golden CRS but they do not deliberately use golden CRS for short cut or it is becoming a defacto standard that extreme end of CRS maybe able to breed out golden/all-white. Hobbyists still go after such extreme grade as even with golden genes, a flower head CRS is consider not common, and generally, no value hit with golden genes, not many breeders is willing to give up flowerhead because of $$. Those lower grade offsprings from the extreme tank will carry both good pattern genes and maybe golden genes.
I know some of the pro breeders are using lower grade CRS like good hino to mix in extreme grade tank, in attempt to lower the golden genes.
However, there are some hobbyists use golden crs to mix with CRS of lower grade to attempt shortcut, they result is mix, and buyers normally shunt away the "anyhow mix".
silane
Seemed like too much of a good thing may not be good.
Just a thought. These SSS to SSSS grades may have gone through too much in-breeding such that finally their genes "break", resulting in lousy shrimps. Thus they need to broaden the gene pool again by going back to the normal hinos.
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wow nice shrimp
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