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Hi all, I'm planning to set up a 6x2x2ft tank and deciding whether to use a sump or a ehiem canister filters for the filtration. Anyone advise which is better in terms of effectiveness and maintenance and in case of a sump, what kind of pumps are best to acheive a good flow rate of at least 2 x tank volume/hour? A chiller will be used as well.
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I would go for the sump. Reason being ease of maintenance, support high bioload and as for the pump for a 622, I believe that ehiem has got a pump that has got variable output adjustment. The price is about $200 depending where you get it from. I am using a sump for my 422 and i rarely maintain my tank. There wil be some who says that for sump tank, co2 loses is high and again i would defer. I am using a 5 liter cylinder and with dosing at 8 bubble per second for 10 hours daily, it can last me for about 4 months.Originally Posted by o2bubble
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I actually prefer a sump as you can actually make water change via the sump easily as well as injecting/mixing co2 into the sump (less equipments in the tank).
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Wow mate you eyes are really really good, F1 train eyes keekee can catch 8 bubbles per second.
I got problem catching anything above 5~6, or you go extremely long bubble counter.
Sorry, off track.
i'm in favor of sump for big tank, using one myself. Consideration for space, height of cabinet, pipeline return path, pipeline sizing, return pump capacity sizing & etc have to be taken into serious consideration.
Yup lastly need to come out with a budget, do a comparison between the 2 methods, the outcome will fit in well or should say will indicate will is the most suitable for you just like tailor made pants skin fit haaa, totally different from mass produced ones...
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I'd go for a sump too. The initial cost will be high due to the big amount of media to fill but it will be smooth sailing from then on. You can discuss with the tankmaker to integrate the CO2 reactor in the return line and the size of pump to use. Pesonally find canisters more costly to replace and troublesome to maintain.
I am using 2 x Eheim 2080 on my 5 footer and having very good results.
It costs a bomb but works for me as generally I am out of my place and so regular maintenance becomes difficult.
Shiv
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I would go for 2 eheim 2260. The reason is purely for photo taking where I can easily take out the pipings. Sump will be a little difficult. The over flow compartment will always be there. Unless we place the overflow compartment outside the tank.
My interest has wandered! Do U?
Overflow really spoil the appearance of the whole setup and aquascaping for planting tank! Especially if you are choosing iwagumi scape. Personal opinion.
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pH:5.5.
As for overflow spoiling the look, not really. There are ways and means to hid the section like using cork sheets, scape foams or even a moss wall.
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My interest has wandered! Do U?
I believe he's going for iwagumi scape, so moss wall may not appear good in overall appearance.
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The overflow compartment is not an issue as I intent to design a full height cabinet with the fish tank in the centre. So the side can be hidden from the view
Not much experience with sump, but is an overflow compartment really needed?
Really appreciate all the advises!
Normally with sump tank configuration , an EOS approach is used as "overflow".
I am not sure how with sump configuration you can use it for water change , as water will stop flowing out through the EOS back to sump below certain water level.
I have 6footer 145USgal (120UKgal) at floor level (I'm looking for a new place to live so I'll have the stand custom made once I move). That left me short of options so I went with three AquaClear 110 (Oscars tank = big time bio-load).
Once I have the stand built, I will likely go for Wet/Dry filtration; although If possible I would combine a canister with it too, since both systems would benefit the tank -maybe not cost-effective in terms of energy and cost of equipment-, but likely needed to achieve the 10-times-tank-volume-per-hour filtration flow rule of thumb.
What you're stocking in it could give you some clues at where to aim to.
Pepe
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Anyone knows where i can find more info regarding design and setup guide for sump tanks?
I will attach you the pdf files for one model of wet/dry filter. This one is not suitable for your 6footer, but the basic elements are there. Some details may change with another model, but at least it gives you an idea.
I installed this model (mod.75) in 4footer, 40gal tank just to attach a chiller to it.
Pepe
Santo Domingo
Sorry, the files are too big.
Check this link:
http://www.pro-clear.com/wetdry.html
you can download the instructions and graphics for the model you desire.
Hope this helps, it is really easy to assemble and have it running. It took me about 30 minutes to install the whole deal, including the chiller.
Pepe
Santo Domingo
I think one of the things you need to consider is how are you going to feed your chiller.
If you use a pump that is rated suitably for your tank, it may be too powerful for your chiller.
Yet if you use a pump that is rated suitably for your chiller, it may be too weak for your tank.
- eric
With sump tank configuration, if chiller is required, you can find those chiller which titanium chilling coil to be put inside sump, like those camp heating coil for boiling water.
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