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  1. 11th Nov 2002, 02:51 #1
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    Presently I'm using Arcadia FL tube costing about $37 per tube.Find it quite costly as I change my both tubes every 8mths.Saw some new make in Taiwan FL tube like Azoo and some other brands that claim it's good for planting.The price range is between $16 to $22.wonder if they are just as good compared to the relatively expensive ones.did anyone use them and find them just as effective.Think it will really save me alot of $$$ if i can change to the cheaper range of FL tube.Can someone pls enlighten me.... thanx.
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    Presently I'm using Arcadia FL tube costing about $37 per tube.Find it quite costly as I change my both tubes every 8mths.Saw some new make in Taiwan FL tube like Azoo and some other brands that claim it's good for planting.The price range is between $16 to $22.wonder if they are just as good compared to the relatively expensive ones.did anyone use them and find them just as effective.Think it will really save me alot of $$$ if i can change to the cheaper range of FL tube.Can someone pls enlighten me.... thanx.
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    Presently I'm using Arcadia FL tube costing about $37 per tube.Find it quite costly as I change my both tubes every 8mths.Saw some new make in Taiwan FL tube like Azoo and some other brands that claim it's good for planting.The price range is between $16 to $22.wonder if they are just as good compared to the relatively expensive ones.did anyone use them and find them just as effective.Think it will really save me alot of $$$ if i can change to the cheaper range of FL tube.Can someone pls enlighten me.... thanx.
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    Presently I'm using Arcadia FL tube costing about $37 per tube.Find it quite costly as I change my both tubes every 8mths.Saw some new make in Taiwan FL tube like Azoo and some other brands that claim it's good for planting.The price range is between $16 to $22.wonder if they are just as good compared to the relatively expensive ones.did anyone use them and find them just as effective.Think it will really save me alot of $$$ if i can change to the cheaper range of FL tube.Can someone pls enlighten me.... thanx.
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    I'm not sure with FL but i get PL tubes cheaper then FL tubes. Higher wattage ,deeper penetration.
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    Thanx for the reply.I also got 2PL with my 2FL for my 4FT tank.But the problem with PL is it is giving out too much heat.Guess I'll probably go get a pair AC fan soon.thanx again.
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    Heat emits for PL is hotter then FL which is relatively cooler, get Ac or Dc fan to cool down your tank. Maybe you can consider changing from FL to PL and invest on one or two fan to cool it down. Change the ballast to e.ballast as it runs coolers too.
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    Sigh...just bought a new double tube jbj light set with e ballast.Don't think I'll be changing again so soon.already one hole in pocket.Will probably run down to simlim to look for some ac fan.cheers...
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    Are the light tubes 4ft? You can try bioplast tubes, range around 20+. If you want to save, then you can use the National Cool Daylight 32W 4ft FL tube at $7, can buy at NTUC. If you can find Philips Daylight tube, they cost about $2.80 only.

    I am using both the National and Philips tubes and my plants bubble as usual. Maybe you just need to change the tube more frequent, say every 6 months.
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    Didn't know that normal household tube can do the job as well.Thanx for the info.Mine use 3.5ft tube.Think it's difficult to find those household tube at 3.5ft.Probably go look for the bioplast tube you mentioned.Is bioplast the brand and where can I find them?Thanx jacian.By the way...saw your tanks in the gallery,very impressive.Very takashi amano like.Cheers
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    3.5 ft tubes... wow.. those are pretty rare... don't think you can get these tubes on the market. Probably you have to go back to specilaised aquarium tubes.
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    hey ACE...
    you gonna get fans from sim lim?
    when you going? take me!
    i also want to get!
    oh btw most of us are using normal daylight tubes for lighting...
    hehe the aquarium tubes are just way too expensive for me...
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    IF the endcap for the 3.5' tube is the same as the regular household FL tubes, you can consider DIY. Loosen the endcaps and use additional cables if necessary and get those metal clips to hold the FL tube in place. I converted my 58cm aquarium tube holder to accept 59 cm one. now I can use those Philips Superflo tube that emits more light at $3+ from Carrefour. Hitachi ones are harder to find. Need to go to Kelatan Lane so I read.

    Whether FL or PL or brands, the problem with most is they don't last long and efficiency starts to drop after 6 mth. Not seen those long lasting light bulbs with 6 to 10 yr warranty by Osram/Philiips for FL or PL before. Anyway the warranty didn't say anything about efficiency over time. It is hard to tell the drop in light output with your naked eyes. But you see the diff when you change to new ones. You can't wait until they flicker like in our homes before you change So it makes sense to be able to use low-cost regular tubes for homes made cheap with similar tech thru mass production.
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    hi peterkoh,thanks for the idea.Think I'm gonna to do jus that when i next change my FL tubes.Cheers....
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    On 11/11/2002 4:14:42 PM

    hey ACE...
    you gonna get fans from sim lim?
    when you going? take me!
    i also want to get!
    oh btw most of us are using normal daylight tubes for lighting...
    hehe the aquarium tubes are just way too expensive for me...
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    ryan...you're jus a little too late.Just went today.If you're going,go to simlim TOWER not Square,which I did today on a wild goose chase.Price range from $10 to $18.50 for AC fan.Cable is $2.50.The price depend on which country it's make.The jap. make Toyo is at $18.50.If you free next week,let me know.Might be going down again to buy another fan.Can sms me at 98382955.By the way,sorry about the reflector as maverick raplied first.
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    nahhh its alright...
    so what fan did you buy and how much?
    why are u getting another one?
    i'm free next week cuz sch hols already.
    but i might just buy this week cuz doing tank this week.
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    Bought this ADDA brand at $15.it measured about 12cm by 12cm.another brand Sunnon (taiwan make)only at$12.50.bought only one to try out the effect and also scare no place to put on the tank.seem working well.temp drop to 28.5 fm 30degree.
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    Bought this ADDA brand at $15.it measured about 12cm by 12cm.another brand Sunnon (taiwan make)only at$12.50.bought only one to try out the effect and also scare no place to put on the tank.seem working well.temp drop to 28.5 fm 30degree.
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    oh sunnon, i have the small computer fan with that brand... attached it to a 12v output adapter and using it for my 2 feet tank now...
    how big is the 12.50 sunnon fan?
    is it good?
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    Hi ryan,sorry for not replying earlier.Didn't quite stayed up as late as you.The sunnon I mentioned is 12x12cm and is AC powered.Just plug and play.Didn't know the effect as i bought the ADDA 220-240v,0.12/0.10A at $15.50.It was super,jus one fan my 4ft tank's temp is slightly below 28 degree with all the lights on(2xPL,2xFL).The fan is set to on together with the lights.Now i wonder should I add another fan?Will it cool the water further?Any idea.Well...you enjoy setting up your tank.
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    ACE!..try running the fan 24/7...and not just when the lights are on. Its more effective that way. temperature is much more constant and sometimes can achieve quite low temperature like 25.5 to 26 when the weather is good. Hope that helps.
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