White spot medication and fry

[eddy planer]

Yi yang


Possible this highly infectious Whitespot parasites can able to tolerance a wide temperture range and can be passed from coldwater fish to tropical fish and vice versa.
This whitespot maybe introduced into your tank by a infected fish(host) so free-swiming infective stage can survive in heated tank of 30-32 deg C if the fish host is not removed. By raising the temperture might accelerate the life cycle of the parasites and may not improve the situation.This free-swimining infectives stages will die quickly without the absence of the host...can be infected decor/equipment , infected fish and even the tank itself. So your Eden cansiter require total wash up and have all the infected media are require new replacement to eliminate the free-swimming stages and its cyst.

Look like you consider a chemical remedies like methylene blue is a highly effective against this outbreak but should only be used without any cansiter filter due to its deleteriuos side effect on nitrifying good bateria. Or salt has the virtue of effective without dosing of methylene blue,the outbreak be progressively eliminated by partial water change and added salt content .

Understand your batch of fry....look like you need to try the plan 1( not using any chemical remedies).

[illumnae]

if i do a replacement of the canister media etc, i'll face another problem of losing all my beneficial bacteria. if the white spot doesn't disappear soon, i'm going to use medication.

[eddy planer]

YiYang

Then you try and go natural by add salt content and partial water change first before try another chemical remedies to save good bateria.

[michael lai]

Hi People,
Been long since I posted here... Just to share a few pointers,
1) Raising the temperature does not kill Ich.
2) Raising the temperature for a substain period of time will stress your other wise healthy fish.
3) 30 degrees is enough, 32 is 'kiasu'.
4) Torque6, your other fish survived probably due to " natural progression, survival of the fittest ".
5) You can never fully eridicate the parasite even with UV filtering, bad water parameters, play with your substrate and they come back again.
6) Try waterlife-protozin for use with cannister filter.
7) A point alot of hobbyist ignore, please aerate your water when applying medication, it makes a world of difference.
Salt is good but beware not for all fish, especially catfish.
9) If you have clown loach and they get ICH, god bless you.
10)Finally, they are usually infected by more than 1 parasite if prolong medication fails.

Hope this helps, good luck

[illumnae]

thanks for the tips michael :) i've read about heat treatment with some people saying that it kills the parasite above 30 degrees and others not mentioning it. I figure there's no harm raising the temperature to speed up the life cycle of the parasite anyhow. So far, the male has lost all white spots for 6 days already, and the female just lost all her white spots yesterday. no other fish in the tank were infected besides these 2. I've read that the parasites are free swimming for 3 days (and they are only succeptible to be killed during these 3 days) at higher temperatures, so if the white spots appear again after 3 days of maintaining the heat, I will definitely get myself a bottle of waterlife-protozin and dose with aeration.

[PeterGwee]

I think you should do a search on whitespots since it isn't the first time it has been asked. DEA's method of using salt a long long time ago is best. Raising the temperature is just to speed up the life cycle of the tomites such that they will leave the host and be killed by the salt solution.

Regards,
Peter Gwee

[illumnae]

ok thanks Peter. guess my google search didn't turn up that accurate results certain sites said that temperature above 30 degrees celcius would kill the tomites on top of speeding up their life cycle.

based on everyone's experiences here, I think i'll start dosing Waterlife/salt. the plants are already suffering from the high temperatures and I just want this outbreak over and done with! i guess the fry will have to suffer/perish

[eddy planer]

Just add 4 tablespoons of salt after you partial water change. Continue your Eden filter for couples of days.

[michael lai]

thanks for the tips michael i've read about heat treatment with some people saying that it kills the parasite above 30 degrees and others not mentioning it. I figure there's no harm raising the temperature to speed up the life cycle of the parasite anyhow. So far, the male has lost all white spots for 6 days already, and the female just lost all her white spots yesterday. no other fish in the tank were infected besides these 2. I've read that the parasites are free swimming for 3 days (and they are only succeptible to be killed during these 3 days) at higher temperatures, so if the white spots appear again after 3 days of maintaining the heat, I will definitely get myself a bottle of waterlife-protozin and dose with aeration.

Waterlife dosage regime is different, please see label. I think its 1st,2nd,3rd and 5th or 6th day application. They work on the life cycle of the parasite. Good luck.

[torque6]

Hi People,
Been long since I posted here... Just to share a few pointers,
Torque6, your other fish survived probably due to " natural progression, survival of the fittest ".
Hope this helps, good luck

Thanks michael, though that answer did cross my mind

[stormhawk]

Another whitespot medication that I used with good efficiency is Sera Costapur. Take note however that I am not sure how fry will react to the malachite green in the medication. It is best to isolate the "infected" fish and treat them separately.

[warrenlee]

be careful. Because raising temp to above 30 degree, will potential kill shrimps and other sensitive plants