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    Is there such a fish?

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    I am looking for an ideal fish for this situation:

    1. less than 5 cm (the smaller the better)
    2. eat algae (both green and brown), besides flakes
    3. can tolerate heat (up to 33 degree celcius)
    4. can live in a planted tank with no filtration
    5. can live alone with no partner or just 1 partner

    Is there such a fish? If any one know of a fish that satisfy most of these criteria, please let me know.

    Thanks!

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    i don't know about such a fish, but you can consider nerite snails.

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    Oto satisfies the criteria?

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    SAE ? one survived in my sump between filter media for almost 2 months.

    Quote Originally Posted by chooz View Post
    I am looking for an ideal fish for this situation:

    1. less than 5 cm (the smaller the better)
    2. eat algae (both green and brown), besides flakes
    3. can tolerate heat (up to 33 degree celcius)
    4. can live in a planted tank with no filtration
    5. can live alone with no partner or just 1 partner

    Is there such a fish? If any one know of a fish that satisfy most of these criteria, please let me know.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyttk View Post
    SAE ? one survived in my sump between filter media for almost 2 months.
    SAE's max size is 15",around 6 inches.

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    i think, any fish under those conditions, will be very stressed out, if they don't die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyttk View Post
    SAE ? one survived in my sump between filter media for almost 2 months.
    wow bro, how did you know it survived for 2 months?!!

    you mean you saw it in the beginning and just left it there?!?!

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    haaa.. I am cruel but not that cruel

    I keep track of all my purchases. It disappeared from main tank, assumed KIA.
    only to discovered that it is very well alive and in one of the compartment in the sump.

    but back to the topic, I think SAE is still a good candidate, u just got to prepare to catch it after it grown up. I recently got a pair of lovely adult 6" sae from shadow bro. they are doing very well in my main tank.


    Quote Originally Posted by antitrust View Post
    wow bro, how did you know it survived for 2 months?!!

    you mean you saw it in the beginning and just left it there?!?!

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    Pardon my ignorance. What is SAE?

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    Siamese algae eater

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    siamese algae eater ITS(i think so)

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    SAE will grow too big. Oto is still a better bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chooz View Post
    I am looking for an ideal fish for this situation:

    1. less than 5 cm (the smaller the better)
    2. eat algae (both green and brown), besides flakes
    3. can tolerate heat (up to 33 degree celcius)
    4. can live in a planted tank with no filtration
    5. can live alone with no partner or just 1 partner

    Is there such a fish? If any one know of a fish that satisfy most of these criteria, please let me know.

    Thanks!
    Hi,
    Why not try endlers. They are very hardy and quite small in size and eat anything. I have a small tank measuring 22cm (L) x14cm (W) and 18cm (H) with 5 pairs of tiger endlers and about 10 cherry shrimps. No filter and no light. It just sitting on my kitchen counter facing the window so natural filtered sunlight. I have Java fern (small leaves type) and some subwassertang from my main tank. All doing well. In fact the endlers are multiplying and some cherry shrimps are carrying eggs. Water change 50% once a week. Just my suggestion.

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    I agree endlers are very hardy fish. do they eat algae ?


    Quote Originally Posted by catfish View Post
    Hi,
    Why not try endlers. They are very hardy and quite small in size and eat anything. I have a small tank measuring 22cm (L) x14cm (W) and 18cm (H) with 5 pairs of tiger endlers and about 10 cherry shrimps. No filter and no light. It just sitting on my kitchen counter facing the window so natural filtered sunlight. I have Java fern (small leaves type) and some subwassertang from my main tank. All doing well. In fact the endlers are multiplying and some cherry shrimps are carrying eggs. Water change 50% once a week. Just my suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyttk View Post
    I agree endlers are very hardy fish. do they eat algae ?
    Honestly I do not know if they eat algae but you can see them picking something from the leaves of plants if they are not fed. But adding a small otto helps I think.

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    Hmmm, I would think "up to 33 degree celcius" is really pushing the limits for most fishes, even humans find it unbearable at that temperature. Care to share what kind of environment is it?

    Maybe you can consider the spa fish (Garra rufa), not sure if it is an avid algae eater though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chooz View Post
    Oto satisfies the criteria?
    Oto does not eat green algae, only those soft algae (brown algae)

    Quote Originally Posted by joeyttk View Post
    I recently got a pair of lovely adult 6" sae from shadow bro. they are doing very well in my main tank.
    Yeah it is suppose to be 3 fishes, but one of them jump to its dead at night a day before
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    Thanks for the many informative replies! Really appreciate that.

    I think I'd better clarify myself before anyone starts to think that I torture fishes....

    The tank holds about 5 litre of water and the dimension is about the size described by "Catfish" above. I have a small java fern tied to a short piece of driftwood and a small lava rock tied with java moss. The tank is located at the balcony. There is no direct sun light to the tank but there are sunlight to other parts of the balcony. So the balcony does get hot especially the past few weeks. The 33 degree celcius is the upper limit, it is below that temperature most of the time.

    Currently I have a single silver-tipped tetra in there. The reason that it is there instead of my main tank is because it has gone berserk. It was chasing and biting all other fishes in the main tank. The chase was really aggressive; you should see to believe it. Anyway, I can't give it away with its condition.

    So I am thinking ahead. When it pass away or if I decided to euthanasia it, what I should put in to the small tank.

    Heard that the spa fish is not cheap..does anyone know what the price is? Think it eats skin, not algae...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chooz View Post
    Oto satisfies the criteria?
    oto are sensitive and would nt be able to live in your desired water parameters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chooz View Post
    Currently I have a single silver-tipped tetra in there. The reason that it is there instead of my main tank is because it has gone berserk. It was chasing and biting all other fishes in the main tank. The chase was really aggressive; you should see to believe it. Anyway, I can't give it away with its condition.
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    Heard that the spa fish is not cheap..does anyone know what the price is? Think it eats skin, not algae...
    Silver tipped tetras should really be kept in groups of 5 or more. The more of its kind, the more they would be busy among themselves, and not bother about other fishes (mileage may vary).

    Really? Spa fish only eats skin? So who supplies them with skin in the natural environment (read: not in captivity)? They are usually not fed with any other food in spa captivity, which is why they get so eager for your skin. They are omnivorous.

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