Moss Wall... with clumpy Taiwan Moss?

[antitrust]

i've a tub of taiwan moss which is kind of clumpy.. like they are 'interwoven' and very compact... or are they just very long and very grown out?

they used to be in a tau huey tub, i just transferred them into pail with a bigger surface area and tried to spread them out as much as possible...

ok so the real question is.. i'm intending to use these taiwan moss for a moss wall... do i...

a) just be rough with the taiwan moss and shred them into bits

b) just lay them down in clumps

c) be gentle and separate them into individual 'leaves'

of course the desired outcome of the wall i hope to achieve is a nice cascading effect.. so which of the above should i practice?

also, i've been dying to know what's the correct way of tying moss...

1) overlap leaves, without breaking them into smaller bits, leaving them whole

2) break them into small bits and overlap the leaves

or perhaps none of the above matter for both my questions as moss are just hardy and grow in any way i treat them?


oh, also another thing, i'm leaving for an 8 day holiday, can i just leave my tubs of moss without light for 8 days? the only light they're prolly going to get is from my ceiling lights which are kind of directly just above my tubs of moss... should be fine right? its kind of bright, like 3 x white light twister bulbs...

i just posted a bunch of questions... would appreciate if anyone could help! thanks!

[Salphur]

Hi antitrust,
some thoughts on mine with your wall intention.

a) just be rough with the taiwan moss and shred them into bits

Shredding is alright provided that, after tying the moss bits can be effectively secured to your wall. So size is rather important in this method, i suppose you don't really want to have moss bits escaping from the wall and floating around after your wall is done.

b) just lay them down in clumps

Clump-laying would mean that moss at the bottom of the 'clump' will soon turn brown and rot with the lack of light over time. This is highly dependent on how thick the clumps are going to be.

c) be gentle and separate them into individual 'leaves'

This can get rather tedious to separate individual leaves ( i'm thinking about the US fissiden wall that i have done sometime ago)!

What i suggest is or more importantly is that, a good spread of moss over the wall and not too thick. (remember to trim away brown and yellowing moss fronds as well.) The well spaced moss will in time grow and propagate to give you a nice and lush moss wall in good conditions.
Frankly speaking, the method can be a combination of all 3 above, no hard and fast rule here

I have moss lying around in a 'tao huey' tub on my table for over 2 weeks with my ceiling lights on at night. I think it is alright for them... do remember to give a few drops of liquid fert into the water

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

[antitrust]

Hi antitrust,
some thoughts on mine with your wall intention.

a) just be rough with the taiwan moss and shred them into bits

Shredding is alright provided that, after tying the moss bits can be effectively secured to your wall. So size is rather important in this method, i suppose you don't really want to have moss bits escaping from the wall and floating around after your wall is done.

b) just lay them down in clumps

Clump-laying would mean that moss at the bottom of the 'clump' will soon turn brown and rot with the lack of light over time. This is highly dependent on how thick the clumps are going to be.

c) be gentle and separate them into individual 'leaves'

This can get rather tedious to separate individual leaves ( i'm thinking about the US fissiden wall that i have done sometime ago)!

What i suggest is or more importantly is that, a good spread of moss over the wall and not too thick. (remember to trim away brown and yellowing moss fronds as well.) The well spaced moss will in time grow and propagate to give you a nice and lush moss wall in good conditions.
Frankly speaking, the method can be a combination of all 3 above, no hard and fast rule here

I have moss lying around in a 'tao huey' tub on my table for over 2 weeks with my ceiling lights on at night. I think it is alright for them... do remember to give a few drops of liquid fert into the water

Hope this helps.

Cheers!

thanks for the tips! really very new to mosses. just got a bunch of flame and taiwan moss from a bro in AF.

how long does it take for the moss wall to grow out? i'm rather impatient..... hahaha.

[Salphur]

You're welcome!

Most mosses will show new fronds around few days to one week when adjusting to new tank water parameters. Cool waters and adequate fertilisers will help greatly. With the addition of Co2 will speed up growth more significantly.

A couple of months will pass by when you finally see a lush and mature wall. Again, all depends on your fert-co2-light-water conditions.

Have fun! you will be rewarded with your patience.

[antitrust]

You're welcome!

Most mosses will show new fronds around few days to one week when adjusting to new tank water parameters. Cool waters and adequate fertilisers will help greatly. With the addition of Co2 will speed up growth more significantly.

A couple of months will pass by when you finally see a lush and mature wall. Again, all depends on your fert-co2-light-water conditions.

Have fun! you will be rewarded with your patience.

argh a couple of months... hahaha. ok maybe i'll try some DIY Co2 for the first time to speed up the growth hmmm.....

cool, can't wait to start on my new project. its good that i finally qualify for growth dividends this year... can use the extra cash for my hobbies while serving the nation