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    Suitable Chiller for a 4ft

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    Hi,

    What model or size(chiller) is suitable for a 4 by 1.5 by 1.5ft tank.

    Was considering of either getting a Teco chiller or a Hailea.
    Heard that Teco chiller comes with UV too.....

    Any suggestion or feedbacks would be greatly appretiated.

    Cheers

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    nobody here used a chiller for their marine or planted tanks?

    Anyone at all?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betta Almighty View Post
    nobody here used a chiller for their marine or planted tanks?

    Anyone at all?

    Thanks

    Nah, I bet there are.

    Anyhow I wouldn't use anything lower than a 1/4HP for a 4 footer. A 1/2HP will be a better choice if you can manage the flowrate to drive the chiller. But most importantly you have to take heat, generated from the ambient, pumps, filters, lighting or any accessories that might generate heat, into consideration when you size your chiller, and not just the tank's size. If you are running a lowtech tank, 1/4hp is more than enough, but on the other hand if you have running a high tech tank, a 1/2hp will be a better choice.

    Below is the hyperlink to Barracuda's excellent write up on chiller's flowrate.

    How to Maximise Chiller Efficiency by Barracuda( arofanatics senior moderator

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    I'm using a CL650 for my 422 marine tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackBRUSHalgae View Post
    Nah, I bet there are.

    Anyhow I wouldn't use anything lower than a 1/4HP for a 4 footer. A 1/2HP will be a better choice if you can manage the flowrate to drive the chiller. But most importantly you have to take heat, generated from the ambient, pumps, filters, lighting or any accessories that might generate heat, into consideration when you size your chiller, and not just the tank's size. If you are running a lowtech tank, 1/4hp is more than enough, but on the other hand if you have running a high tech tank, a 1/2hp will be a better choice.

    Below is the hyperlink to Barracuda's excellent write up on chiller's flowrate.

    How to Maximise Chiller Efficiency by Barracuda( arofanatics senior moderator

    Glad that you replied

    Very informative link, Thanks alot.

    Are you using a chiller for your tank?
    I wounldnt consider it as a high tech tank. Am planning to start a 4ft Planted tank. Will be using a 4 X 36 FL tube for lighting. A "moderate" tech tank perhaps

    Any models to reccomend?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFG View Post
    I'm using a CL650 for my 422 marine tank.
    CL650 is a Resun chiller right?

    422? the volume of your tank?

    Any feedback on your chiller?

    Thanks

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    422 is the size of my tank, basically it's 4ft x 2ft x 2ft tank. Yes, I am using a Resun chiller model CL650. I find that this chiller is adequate for my usage. I have only 4x54w ATI T5 HO bulbs. But the only gripe I have is that I should have added an external temperature probe as the chiller is measuring the tank temperature from my sump instead of the tank. I may add the external temperature probe in the future for my setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betta Almighty View Post
    Glad that you replied

    Very informative link, Thanks alot.

    Are you using a chiller for your tank?
    I wounldnt consider it as a high tech tank. Am planning to start a 4ft Planted tank. Will be using a 4 X 36 FL tube for lighting. A "moderate" tech tank perhaps

    Any models to reccomend?

    Thanks

    I'm using a hailea HC-300A 1/4 hp chiller. Takes about 15~20 mins to chill 27 to 26degC and depending on the ambient temp, it takes 1~2 hrs before the next kick in. I have a 200L planted tank with 4x39W T5HO with a 2400L/H pump to drives my filtration, co2 reacter and chiller. Photoperiod for my tank is around 12hrs. My ambient temperature ranges between 28~30degC, and I have a fan, which is on the same timer as my lighting, blowing on top of my tank.

    It depends on your budget whether to get Arctica/teco or hailea/resun, as their difference in prices are like heaven and earth.

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    Among all the brands, those which save on electric consumptions usually cost alot right? Are there any other reasons why it's so costly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaticPlants View Post
    Among all the brands, those which save on electric consumptions usually cost alot right? Are there any other reasons why it's so costly?
    i guess its quality and service. Artica and Teco comes with warranty and run in maintenance. Thats what i heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFG View Post
    422 is the size of my tank, basically it's 4ft x 2ft x 2ft tank. Yes, I am using a Resun chiller model CL650. I find that this chiller is adequate for my usage. I have only 4x54w ATI T5 HO bulbs. But the only gripe I have is that I should have added an external temperature probe as the chiller is measuring the tank temperature from my sump instead of the tank. I may add the external temperature probe in the future for my setup.
    How long has it been running? no problems so far?
    I assume you have a marine tank. Question is how are going to connect an external probe from your chiller to your tank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackBRUSHalgae View Post
    I'm using a hailea HC-300A 1/4 hp chiller. Takes about 15~20 mins to chill 27 to 26degC and depending on the ambient temp, it takes 1~2 hrs before the next kick in. I have a 200L planted tank with 4x39W T5HO with a 2400L/H pump to drives my filtration, co2 reacter and chiller. Photoperiod for my tank is around 12hrs. My ambient temperature ranges between 28~30degC, and I have a fan, which is on the same timer as my lighting, blowing on top of my tank.

    It depends on your budget whether to get Arctica/teco or hailea/resun, as their difference in prices are like heaven and earth.
    Where did you get your chiller from? How long has it been running?
    I might consider getting Hailea but who supplies them?

    How many times a day does your chiller kicks in?
    2400L/H...is that too fast?
    Im thinking of connecting my filter output into my External Co2 reactor than the chiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betta Almighty View Post
    Where did you get your chiller from? How long has it been running?
    I might consider getting Hailea but who supplies them?

    How many times a day does your chiller kicks in?
    2400L/H...is that too fast?
    Im thinking of connecting my filter output into my External Co2 reactor than the chiller.


    The aquamedic models are supplied by Keong Shiong, while the new HC series are supplied by Aquatic.

    I have no idea how many times it is kicking in per day. But with 15ishMin per chilling time and 1hr(hottest ambient)~2hrs(night time) resting time before the next kick in, I would say that is pretty efficient.

    2400L/H is rated at ground level with no restriction from any filter media, chiller, hoses, canister, pump height, etc. Thus with all these, I should expect the final ouput would be only 1200ishL/H. I also diffuse it with 2 x 16/22 rainbars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betta Almighty View Post
    How long has it been running? no problems so far?
    I assume you have a marine tank. Question is how are going to connect an external probe from your chiller to your tank?

    It's a 2nd hand chiller and has been running a few days before Hari Raya ( 24th September 2006 ). As far as I know, there's 2 method. 1st method is that you'll need to have someone to modify slightly the temperature setting equipment of the chiller to a external one, with a probe and a temperature controller. The 2nd method is to purchase a ready made one and have the chiller main power plug, plug-in into this piece of equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackBRUSHalgae View Post
    The aquamedic models are supplied by Keong Shiong, while the new HC series are supplied by Aquatic.

    I have no idea how many times it is kicking in per day. But with 15ishMin per chilling time and 1hr(hottest ambient)~2hrs(night time) resting time before the next kick in, I would say that is pretty efficient.

    2400L/H is rated at ground level with no restriction from any filter media, chiller, hoses, canister, pump height, etc. Thus with all these, I should expect the final ouput would be only 1200ishL/H. I also diffuse it with 2 x 16/22 rainbars.
    you mean there are 2 different models? Any site where i can read more about the new HC series? Where is Aquatic btw? Im curious about the size of your chiller.

    i see, so theres 2 rain bar at the end.

    Do you find it noisy when it kicks in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFG View Post
    It's a 2nd hand chiller and has been running a few days before Hari Raya ( 24th September 2006 ). As far as I know, there's 2 method. 1st method is that you'll need to have someone to modify slightly the temperature setting equipment of the chiller to a external one, with a probe and a temperature controller. The 2nd method is to purchase a ready made one and have the chiller main power plug, plug-in into this piece of equipment.
    ohh. So far any problems with the chiller? anyway why Resun?

    I guess option 1 is gonna be quite complicated. Option 2 would be interesting.
    But how accurate can it be. Notice that digital thermometers arent that accurate compared to glass ones....

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    When the chiller cut-off, there is a loud noise but it doesn't do that so often. Why I choose Resun was due to budget. I had promised my parent that the marine tank will be ready for the festivities. The 43 inch projector tv that we had for so long ( nearly 10 years ) went on leave so the tank was the topic of conversation for relative visits. Most of them had never seen corals close up and was wide-eyed when they saw the equipment needed to run the setup. They became speechless when I told them the initial cost. The chiller, although was placed beside the tank went unnoticed until someone asked why the water is cold.

    I may go for the 1st option as I do not know how the 2nd option works. My only guess is that for the 2nd option, the chiller would be switch on and off by the ready made controller. Good or not, I do not know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFG View Post
    When the chiller cut-off, there is a loud noise but it doesn't do that so often. Why I choose Resun was due to budget. I had promised my parent that the marine tank will be ready for the festivities. The 43 inch projector tv that we had for so long ( nearly 10 years ) went on leave so the tank was the topic of conversation for relative visits. Most of them had never seen corals close up and was wide-eyed when they saw the equipment needed to run the setup. They became speechless when I told them the initial cost. The chiller, although was placed beside the tank went unnoticed until someone asked why the water is cold.

    I may go for the 1st option as I do not know how the 2nd option works. My only guess is that for the 2nd option, the chiller would be switch on and off by the ready made controller. Good or not, I do not know.
    Cool, Thanks for the feedback.
    Guess my situation is kinda like yours, only difference is that its a planted tank. Trying to get it done before X mas but i guess i dont have much time left.

    From option 1 i heard that it would be quite risky as there maybe a risk of the chiller freezing at either the input or output.

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    I am still not sure how a chiller will freeze up while there is still an adequate flow. The water should have carried away the cold water from the chiller. I do not know if the chiller is able to cool the water down to 4 degrees in order for water to turn to ice. Have never encounter this phenomenon before.
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    Any advise on converting a chiller which is used for marine before to a fresh water tank?

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