Hydor Prime 10 vs Eheim 2211

[Panut]

Oh, yixiang, you may want to take note, 2213/2211 is 5watt, wheras Hydor prime 10 is 10watt..

cheers,

[oblivion]

What's the hose size of hydor prime 10?

its 12/16mm

[aquanatix]

Usually i overcome the length problems with additional suckers.
I purchase similar sized ones and attach it to the inlet and outlet then adjust accordingly. Though mine is a 2footer as compared to yixiang's 1footer,i like mine very short as well. Only problem is...the pipes stick out and may look very unsightly to some.

[oblivion]

hehe, actually i have a brand new unopened prime10 lying around in my room since like a few weeks back

yx, if you can hold your horses, i can take a pic of the inlet and outlet pipes and have some measurements for you

[illumnae]

haha thanks lee1224 I'm very busy at work this week so i can't go and get myself a new filter till this weekend at the earliest anyway.

you looking to let go of that new unopened prime10 by any chance?

[oblivion]

i'll open it to measure the pipes later tonight

nope, im using it for my new 1ft cube bedroom setup that i mentioned to you last time at biotope
all the equipment are in except plants
will set it up when i finish my ICT next month

[illumnae]

hmmm if it's suitable for your 1ft cube, it should be suitable for mine too. just need to source for a cheap set of lily pipes. don't really want to spend more on the inlet/outlet than i spend on the filter

[oblivion]

im going to use lily pipes so the original in- and outlet pipes don;t matter to me

you could try the knockoff lily pipes like these
10mm - http://www.mizuworld.com/index.php?t...etail&pid=1082
13mm - http://www.mizuworld.com/index.php?t...etail&pid=1081

or if they are out of budget then you can also use cheaper plastic pipes with the filter
the original ones you have should do pretty fine
you are currently using 9/12mm hoses with your current filter i believe?
a pair of step-down converters to switch from hydor 12/16 hosing to 9/12 hose for your current pipes should do the trick

but anyway just for your info, these are what the original hydor p10 pipes look like + measurements:

edit:
just to add, for both in- and outlet pipes, the entire black colored lengths are fixed and cannot be detached/cut in any way
the clear parts like the inlet strainer, outflow piece and the suckers can be detached however.
and with the provided extension pipe (not shown in pic) merviso mentioned in post #14, total length of inlet is extended from 29.5 cm to 38.5cm

[illumnae]

thanks for the detailed pictures lee1224! Looks like there's no way I can use the default inlet in my tank. I'm considering purchasing a pair of lily pipes now. How's the noise on this filter? I'm using it in my office tank and need to have it silent. So far my boss has made positive comments about the lack of noise generated by the eden. Hopefully the Hydor will be the same

[oblivion]

thanks for the detailed pictures lee1224! Looks like there's no way I can use the default inlet in my tank. I'm considering purchasing a pair of lily pipes now.

Usually i overcome the length problems with additional suckers.
I purchase similar sized ones and attach it to the inlet and outlet then adjust accordingly. Though mine is a 2footer as compared to yixiang's 1footer,i like mine very short as well. Only problem is...the pipes stick out and may look very unsightly to some.

you could consider aquanatix's method of raising the inlet up but it may be a tad unsightly
knockoff (meaning cheap) lily pipes-wise, i suppose the 2 links i pasted earlier are like the only available ones around?
all others that i know of - i.e. CAL, ADA etc are quite pricey
maybe Do!Aqua is a choice if you can get someone in Japan to bring it back for you?
not sure of the price though, you can ask Jervis on that

How's the noise on this filter? I'm using it in my office tank and need to have it silent. So far my boss has made positive comments about the lack of noise generated by the eden. Hopefully the Hydor will be the same

Being a owner of 3 prime 10 and a single prime 20 i'm a big fan of the cannisters?
All of them are in my room and they're silent,motor doesn't really feel hot when touching the top and maintaining it is almost effortless due to the easy removal of individual components in the filter...

my own experience - i have previously used another prime10 and a prime30 and i don;t find any audible noise or vibration
i see that aquanatix has made some comments on this as well
and he has the experience of 4 hydors to back him up!


personally, the main draw of the hydor to me over the more popular eheim is the design and color (sorry i hate eheim green! )
and of course the autopriming feature plus the provided taps

[Merviso]

Wow! That's really good work, bro lee1224, bravo!

It will be interesting for you to show us how you connect up the Lily pipes once your tank is up! I pretty much like to try that too, since I find the Hydor pipe a bit on the bulky side...

BTW, I remembered there's a cheaper Lily style pipe from ANS. The LFS at havelock should have it.

[oblivion]

@merviso
how i will connect?
i'll just ignore the original hydor pipes and connect the hosing from the filter direct to the lily pipes
i have a set of 13mm lily pipes, so will fit the 12/16mm hydor hosing
a quick soak in hot water to expand the hoses for easiy slip-onto the lilies and once they get cooled down and contract back, should give me a nice watertight fit

the ANS lily pipe set you mentioned available at havelock should be the same ones that i mentioned to illumnae earlier
if im not wrong, the 2 lily pipe sets from mizuworld that i posted the links for earlier are actually ANS brand

@illumnae

extra info - i just found Do!Aqua 10mm lily pipes available in singapore while surfing midori's website
they're supposedly for "beginners" so its significantly cheaper than the "professional" ADA ones
not sure about quality difference though ==> ask jervis

midori also sells the same 2 ANS lily pipe sets that mizu world has
http://www.midori-sg.com/prodindex.p...cata=8&cate=-1

but point to note in case you are going down to midori:
i pass by midori almost daily (i work at millenia/suntec area afterall ), and the lily pipes are not really in stock at their store all the time.
you might get the ANS ones, but i do not think i have seen the Do!Aqua ones there when i did pop in
if you are buying from them, probably best to order beforehand so as not to make a wasted trip

[Merviso]

Yes, the ones at Mizu World website is from ANS. But somehow I remember seeing some packaging that looks cheaper... ... Maybe I'll check again next time I drop by their shop..

[aquanatix]

my own experience - i have previously used another prime10 and a prime30 and i don;t find any audible noise or vibration
i see that aquanatix has made some comments on this as well
and he has the experience of 4 hydors to back him up!


personally, the main draw of the hydor to me over the more popular eheim is the design and color (sorry i hate eheim green! )
and of course the autopriming feature plus the provided taps

Haha,how true!As i was mentioning to him,i didn't really like the slight gurgling sound made when water level drops.But then again,height of the outlet places an important part in sound levels.Hence i stopped using mine. And yes,i hate the eheim green as well! The hydors just feel and look so much better beside my tanks!Midori has a promotion going on for their hydors. Prime 10 is now retailing for $90 as compared to the usual $136! Should really check them out if interested.

In case anyone is interested: http://www.midori-sg.com/prodview.ph...arch_catalog=8

[illumnae]

A couple of questions. Is hydor able to function beside a tank and not under it? (Aquanatix did mention the hydors look nice next to his tank ) and do the taps act like eheim double taps? (ie I can close the taps and disconnect the hoses to clean the filter with no spillage)

[Shadow]

Midori has a promotion going on for their hydors. Prime 10 is now retailing for $90 as compared to the usual $136! Should really check them out if interested.

In case anyone is interested: http://www.midori-sg.com/prodview.ph...arch_catalog=8

$90 very closed to Eheim price, with additional surface skimmer and valve. It is a very good deal. For Eheim you will need to buy surface skimmer and quick disconect valve. Too bad I can't use it for my 1ft cube, ~30cm inlet is too long for 1ft, but still very good deal

[Jervis]

Wow... I didn't know the Hydor comes with so many gadgets... not bad at all

[Shadow]

how is the availability of Hydor spare part? is it as good as eheim?

[Jervis]

how is the availability of Hydor spare part? is it as good as eheim?

With so many parts involved... I got a feeling most people will buy a new set instead and end up with 20 spare parts

[oblivion]

how is the availability of Hydor spare part? is it as good as eheim?

obviously ease of availability will lose to eheim by a little
eheim is afterall the popular brand so its more widely available

i can find hydor parts at chong pang KS
according to them, we can also order if the part is not available in store
think the other KS should also have the same service?

additionally, i am not sure as never tried but aquanatix mentioned he can find at Wuhu and Polyart also?

...maintaining it is almost effortless due to the easy removal of individual components in the filter...Parts are decently priced and you can get any part replaced(courtesy of Ben over at Wuhu and now the Polyart guys!) easily...