New to Goldfish
currently keep neon tetra, cherry shrimp, crs, guppies, crayfish etc etc
but yet to try goldfish
any tips or advice which species should i start with?
plan to keep a few goldfish in my 1 feet cube tank
with internal bubble or hang-on filter, no gravel, no light, no plants
what is the max no i can keep if i want minimum maintenance?
thanks
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Goldfish are basically the same fish as guppies. The max number of how any fish you can hold in the tank depends on the size of the goldfish. If you get the smaller kind of goldfish then you can probably fit about 3 or 4 dozen, if you are getting the bigger kind of goldfish then about 2 dozen. After you get the goldfish and you have no gravel, no light, and no plants then you only have to feed them and clean their tank out every once and a while.
Last edited by richmaster; 2nd Aug 2008 at 22:58.
Do not think Goldfish and Guppies are really that similar other than being feeders here in this region.
Goldfish is primary a coldwater fish (not a tropical). Maybe a pair will do fine but not more in a 1 feet tank.
Goldfish produce much more waste than the tropical fishes and constant water change is absolutely necessary.
Since it is a 1 feet, the hardier and much more speedy varieties of the goldfish like the wakin, comet or shubunkin are out of the question. These guys need big spaces to swim around unless of course one intend to transport them to bigger tank or even ponds once they grew bigger.
The more fanciful varieties although smaller are much more delicate. The fantail or black moor will be good starters though ...
Hopes these helps
did some research, my tank can only comm 1 goldfish, with length less than 1"
intend to boost up the filtration with a hang-on and bubble filter
can i install a surface skimmer?
feeding once every 2-3 days
this might help a little more too
which species is more hardy?
thanks all
can... remember to not overfeed your goldfish... and they are prone to swimming bladder problem..
they are opportunistic feeder that eat anything that can fit into their mouth... and they don't know when to stop feeding..
if you are going on holiday you can put some succulent aquatic plants inside so that they can munch on them...
common goldfish(those with single short tail), comet goldfish(those with single longtail) and shubukin(also a single tail goldfish) are quite hardy and these 3 species have very very long life, grow quite big and breed like rabbit when the breeding season comes(at least they breed like rabbit for me) but remember to remove the eggs as soon as they are laid as the adult will not recognise the eggs(both fertilised and unfertilised) and eat the eggs.. so your tank size cannot accomodate these..
other than that, black moor, ryukin and fantail is a good start... other species like lionhead and bubble eye don't have a dorsal fin... these are not really recommended for beginner...
Last edited by planted86; 3rd Aug 2008 at 10:52.
noted bro
will check out the species you mention and decide which to keep
have a great sunday
gold fish are super high bioload fish.. 2ft can only keep a healthy batch of say 2 - 3.
and constant water change is a must.
i read here that 2ft tank can at most keep 2 to 3.. do they required any light so that they can stable and start breeding?
Last edited by Quixotic; 4th Aug 2008 at 15:51. Reason: Remove inappropriate setences
yes... they don't live in the dark... but don't really need those high lighting like planted tanks need....
Currently I'm keeping two Ranchu in a 2ft tank with only sponge filter. Got them at 1" size 3 to 4 weeks ago now they are about 2.5".
Water change 25% every 2 to 3days. Feed them small amount of frozen blood worm or good quality pellet 4 to 5 times a day.
Here are photos of my ranchu. I got them cheap as there are defect.
One of them has a curl tail the other anal fin is bent upwards.
Last edited by Quixotic; 7th Aug 2008 at 00:23. Reason: Merge posts
1 foot tank. A bit small. Consider at least a 2 feet for goldfish.
Unless you are keeping those feeder goldfish for fun.
Cheers, Christophe
how big will these goldfishes grow? will feeder goldfish actually breed and grow
yes they will unless their breeding "apparatus" is also defect...
how do they actually breed? do they prefer any floating plants?
they are egg scatterers and will eat their own eggs... for me.. i put a undergravel filter plate then a piece of plastic sheet below... most of the eggs will drop into the undergravel plate and stick to the plastic sheet...
oh i think i get what you mean.. how do i actually know the male has fertilized the egg and when the fries are out, need to take out the parents?
Last edited by blk115; 18th Aug 2008 at 22:19.
i'm not sure how to tell if the male have fertilized the eggs....
but fertilize eggs are not white in colour...
ok when breeding season, the male which is smaller in size more slender will develop white speck on the gill cover... and will chase the female which is much bigger and broader around the tank untill it releases the eggs... i've never seen the male get close to the eggs and fertilize it.. so my guess is while the female releases the eggs the male releases the sperm as well...
and yes you must either remove the eggs or remove the parent or any fish inside cause the parent will eat the eggs...
IMHO... Breeding Goldfish is actually very easy.. Used to do it in my school boy days... Hope I still remember it correctly since it's 20 years back...
Sometimes, you will see a mature female goldfish scatter it's eggs a few days after a major water change, especially with cooler water. These eggs can be left to be eaten since it is usually not fertilized, and also it is not likely to be removable anyway.
Once you identified the mature female, select 2 mature males that you wanted it to breed with. Feed them well with good/live food for a few days. 2 males will increase the chances of fertilizing the eggs or more eggs.
In the mean time, prepare a breeding tank with sponge filter and a good floating plants with thick roots. Water hyacinth will be a good choice.
Introduce the 3 goldfish into the breeding tank. The 2 males should start chasing the female within a few days. Once the female is ready to lay the eggs, it will do it on the roots of the Water Hyacinth and the males will proceed to fertilize it. Remove the 3 fish after the process is completed.
The eggs are then left to hatch in the breeding. Some medication for anti-fungus may be applied. Hopefully you will see the fries after some time...
Used to keep a few gold fishes which my son bought back after the school outing.
Some comments on keeping gold fish:
. It is best not to keep them with other fishes. Their fin is susceptible to nipping by other fishes.
. You can't really keep more than one adult fish in a 1ft tank. I am not sure whether there is a such thing as small size gold fish, lol.
. Their bio-load is very high
. They will eat your plants
Having said that, they are cute in its own way.
i have "upgraded" them into a 2 feet tank
hopefully they feel better
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