SGX is HOT! (Discuss hot stocks here!)

[Orion]

Just my simple point of view:

If there is something that have no potential of making money, I think no one will come. Come on, we are not stupid.

It is only when people get into this mind 'zone' and got addicted and Ooop... forget to get out when the party is over that they got burnt.

This has nothing to do with IQ, educational level, paper qualification but more with how we understand ourselves and our weakness.
e.g. I poke you hard now and touch your nerve and cheat you $10,000, how many can still think rationally to resolve this

Seriously how much do we understand ourselves? Most use even less than 6% of our mind and if one day we wake up and suddenly find that we become 'enlightened' 100%, are we still the same?

[timebomb]

Most use even less than 6% of our mind and if one day we wake up and suddenly find that we become 'enlightened' 100%, are we still the same?

Orion, where did you get the 6% figure from? How did you come to the conclusion that most of us use less than that percentage of our brains? You also mentioned something in an earlier post about polishing up your mental thinking? How do you propose to do that? You spoke of thinking rationally to resolve problems. How do you go about learning to think rationally?

Do you believe that the answers lie within yourself and that you only have to look inwards to find them?

Loh K L

[Orion]

About the 6% I read from western books and some science report. Cannot dispute true or not. There is not vernier or micrometer to do tangible readings but the guess is if the smartest of human still screw up badly in real life and if that is the max of human capacity ,then surely no hope.....? and normal human is just one/tenth their smartness or less?

Comtemplation is important to me, when mind is clear and quite free of gross human greed, hate, ego delusion, it is quite malleable. if only that state can be reached all the time.....

Well we human haven't 'arrived' yet aren't we? Just like our ancestors living in the wilderness and facing constant physical dangers, we today face the same... more subtle and mostly mental...

Not 100% true lah....

The answers will need effort to find out. Don't worry.. human are smart and they'll know what is good for them.. if they are honest to face it up. Life is short and racing against time. Just don't seek easy answer the easy way out if you know what I mean.

Just play slow motion video, see clearly how the thoughts come from. The arising, the griping of it, the subsizing of it. Better still know the fuel that cause it. Human greed, hate, ego... ? Break them down and identify them and know them. Rational thinking may then come. Know the enemy and we know ourself.
and why all the trouble? Perhaps that is the way to peace and bliss.

[eddy planer]

Hi folks!

Let get into business!

If you are to choose one and only one stock, which to choose?
What about if you betting on one stock to be a superdave stock( give you many return when the U-turn come) which one will you buy?

For me , I will choose penny stock preferably less than 10cts. There many are lower down to 0.5cts .

Let me know your thoughts

[Orion]

I am very conservative...

I'll choose Singtel when and if it dive to $1.60....

Always looking for good inherent fundamental values of things.

[timebomb]

and normal human is just one/tenth their smartness or less?

Well, if you really want to improve on your "mental thinking" (isn't all thinking mental?? ), you should start by not believing everything you hear or read.

Loh K L

[timebomb]

For me , I will choose penny stock preferably less than 10cts. There many are lower down to 0.5cts .

Why penny stocks, Eddy? What are your reasons for choosing them? Please tell.

Loh K L

[Orion]

Well, if you really want to improve on your "mental thinking" (isn't all thinking mental?? ), you should start by not believing everything you hear or read.

Loh K L

Well this joke is nothing new, I have heard it many times especially those of my collegues. (overseas graduates) No problem for me.

Well timebomb I think you are getting personal. That word is just a general description. (Pardon me my English. I don't have a PHD for that) The world is more than what we know. We too must have the tendency to accept other people's idea and thoughts even though they may not be First class quality. I too am surprised some people with higher IQ don't think correctly. (well nothing to do with intelligence actually, just the mode of thinking) but we shouldn't just criticize them. Things will not always turn out like what we planned for, agreed?

Worse is when people don't even want to discuss and just say Well that way sure works but that is not the only way, you know what I mean.



Like I said earlier, we human are always learning. If you think you know all, then fine. But to me the day I accept something as Die cast fact is the day I tell myself I am old. Even the air we breathe in now is constantly changing, everthing is in flux and I don't take comfort in holding something as permanent. We know that. What we know as die-cast truth may be false another day. Many older Singaporeans of the previous generation, some are already being considered as redundant useless to the society and to the younger working world superior and got retrentched at the first go, but to them (at least grudgingly) they think that they are right and their experience is still valuable. Reality will just push them into oblivion. (That includes me as well possibly!)

All things we listen, heard we absorb. Right or wrong we decide and we get wiser from these when we discuss them. (Like now, you have given me new ideas and points to ponder.) Well no resources is being wasted here. No one got cheated, no money loss. It's an exchange of ideas. Some don't agree never mind but we human are not stupid right?

[Orion]

Why penny stocks, Eddy? What are your reasons for choosing them? Please tell.

Loh K L

Well my point of view...
I think Eddy planer is an intelligent man and observe the last line he wrote Let me have your thoughts..

He already have all the answers and just want to confirm them and get some feedbacks from us.

Bet I'll 'chop off' my head if eddy planer buys in plenty of penny stocks.

[timebomb]

Well timebomb I think you are getting personal.

Please show me where I got personal?? I made a joke about the term "mental thinking" to show you that it makes no sense. I wouldn't have made that joke if you hadn't expressed an interest in becoming more rational. I'm just trying to point you in the right direction. I was like you when I was at your age. Now I know better. I don't know everything but I know better.

To think rationally, try "critical thinking". One does not become more rational just by wishing to be so. You have to learn it.

Loh K L

[Orion]

Please show me where I got personal?? I made a joke about the term "mental thinking" to show you that it makes no sense. I wouldn't have made that joke if you hadn't expressed an interest in becoming more rational. I'm just trying to point you in the right direction. I was like you when I was at your age. Now I know better. I don't know everything but I know better.

To think rationally, try "critical thinking". One does not become more rational just by wishing to be so. You have to learn it.

Loh K L

This one I know lah.

This is what the government has been imbuding to the educational system now.

Thanks I will improve on that, But 'critical thinking' and then one becomes critical

[Orion]

So my conclusion is....
Always seek a BALANCE in whatever we do.

[Sunfire]

Hi folks!

Let get into business!

If you are to choose one and only one stock, which to choose?
What about if you betting on one stock to be a superdave stock( give you many return when the U-turn come) which one will you buy?

For me , I will choose penny stock preferably less than 10cts. There many are lower down to 0.5cts .

Let me know your thoughts

Coca cola! Cos everyone drinks it? They drink it when reccession, they drink more of it when times are good.

[eddy planer]

Hi Folks,

The present financial scourge is the result of complacency by governments, banks, institutions, and brokerages. All are responsible in one way or another for its happening in the market.

Though on hindsight we can say that much, we could not have done so on foresight. Thus is good management, governance and defensive skills of people in all these institutions and governments whom the general public faithfully depend upon for their training and aptitudes failing. Have they failed their duties and trusts?

When a motorist causes damage in accidents, they are normally branded as reckless and in severe cases charged in court. However, in a financial crisis, it is difficult to say who is responsible.

Nevetherless, it is folly for us not to explore the real causes of the global financial failure. Obviously, a good post mortem should reveal not just a single reason, but a number of them, some obvious and some hidden.

We ask ourselves what causes the mortgage crisis which became the harbinger of the current financial climate. Recklessness in lending by banks to the home owners? This is not a big problem here. In Singapore, we have this zero percent deposit for a car and sometimes a house. Any problem? NO, we categorically have no problem with these free instant ownerships. Our buyers are credit worthy with very few exceptions and they honour their purchases and fork out the necessary installments when due. We true breed Singaporeans embrace honesty as our traditional value, and thus we don't face too many credit defaults. However, we must be fearful that this true value of our cultural (Mainly Chinese) heritage be eroded, and the consequences are unpredictable just as the financial crisis.

So therefore, when there is a problem in the lending arrangement, something bad is or has been going on. In the mortgage crisis, it was blamed on the security packaging of these debts on house mortgages. Critics have found this to be true. Because when securities are backed by continued depreciated values, they became worthless eventually and the lenders want their money back thus resulting in foreclosures and bankruptcies. Depreciated assets held everywhere became a burden to everyone, the logical outcome. The moral of this lesson, "take care to value all assets;yours and others, lest you are also pulled into the whirlwinds." Many banks were pulled into the whirlwinds by eventually finding themselves holding nothing of value.

But of course the hidden reasons could also add to these problems. Corruption, evil opportunists, and dishonest caretakers of others' money. Corruption need not be elaborated for in good times as in bad times, it plays a part in "termiting" the core foundation of the off guarded institutions, banks or governements. Evil opportunists will rush into the scene and grab their riches or even cover their bad foot in the midst of commotion. Dishonest caretakers can wreck all sorts of havoc and stay clear of implications.

The continued slide in the stock markets have also bursted some banks in Europe. They found their shares and unit trusts burnt to ashes. But there are also those banks that are strong enough to stave off a collapse. These banks require bailouts. Listed share prices do not depreciate in values unless they are sold down deliberately or done in collusion to effect a depreciation of a listed company or companies. These acts of deliberately slashing prices in collaboration amongst dealers can be termed financial terrorism. Something must be done. The best way to prevent these financial terrorists is to nip it at the bud. Where is the bud? It is found in the system of selling short a financial security whose end value is found in the artificial closing price of the security. Because a selling short position is harmful as it depresses the value of any asset to further the original aim of selling short. Although naked short selling are not as dangerous within the rules of buying back (liquidation) of the position on the same day, as selling on borrowed shares, the latter have untold damaging effects.

The world market watchdogs should abolish borrowing of shares for short selling owing to its market choking qualities which can down big banks and even governments. There will be no end to global financial distress if we refuse to understand such ill effects.

Let me know your thoughts

[timebomb]

Eddy,

I have just one question for you. Please tell me truthfully whether you wrote your last post yourself or did you just copy it from somewhere? I don't mind arguing with you, you know. In fact, I love a good argument but I like to know if those posts are truly your writings first before I say anything.

Loh K L

[blue33]

Someone name Thomas543 and hanstar wrote it in Channelnewsasia. Here's the >link< Cut and paste most of it

[timebomb]

Before anyone jumps on him, I like to say I know Eddy personally. We've met a few times, the first of which was when he came to my house to see my tanks. Although I don't really know him well, I have to say Eddy's a nice guy. He's a humorous person and a lot of fun to be with. With him around, there's never a dull moment.

I have no idea why Eddy did what he did but I've been suspecting that his posts were not his writings for a long time. Actually, it's pretty glaring how the quality of his posts differ from each other. But what really surprised me was when I found that Eddy has been copying my posts and pasting them to other forums.

It could be Eddy just loves a good argument but he does not want to participate himself. He's probably the kind of guy who likes to sit on the sidelines and watch people punch each other senseless

Whatever his reasons, I'm not mad with him. But I would like to politely ask him to stop copying my posts and pasting them elsewhere.

Loh K L

[Orion]

Well Mr eddy planer, there are 1,349 views for this thread as we speak and I think seriously we need some feedbacks from you.

I always thought you have a great distaste for stock markets and the people who make money out of it and now it may seems that you have made a fool out of some of us.

So let us know your thoughts.

[eddy planer]

Dear Folks

Oops ! You guys exposed me !Obviously I become the bad guy!

I'm sure , you know all of what I'm writing what that seems now extremely mocking to all 1,349 views for this "SGX is hot" thread.

Perhaps, I always feel that we are as big as SGX institution forum, freedom to gather any useful info and options to made this "SGX is hot!" thread to have entertaining and exciting postings.

But its seems my belief turns flawed and extremely unfavourable to most of you guys.

Please accept my apology.folks

[blue33]

Obviously you're not writing on your own, you're just coping from other peoples, just like when people said they fight for holy war, war is war, nothing got to do with holy thing. Obviously this is not through your own experience also, and you think you're as big as SGX institution forum, not we. And this is not entertaining and exciting but rather cheating and causing confusion to others, the 1349 viewers on current stocks. You may cause harm to others on wrong judgment on stocks and infringing copyrights of others without the acknowledge from the user who wrote it.

You really ought to be ....

So let us know your thoughts.