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    Squabbling Betta macrostoma

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    Hi guys,

    New here on the forum and need some advice

    What can you do if paired male and female wild bettas start fighting?

    Do we separate them, house them apart for a couple of weeks and then put them back together?

    Or do we let them fight it out and allow one to gain dominance?

    Or should we pair them up again with other bettas

    Really need help here, its driving me nuts to see them whack each other

    Thanks!

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    It will be better for you to mention the breed,tank size and the tank set up for us to give you advice.
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    Thanks

    I am having problems with macrostomas.

    The set up is a pair in a 2 ft tank with java ferns and blackwood.

    Any advice?

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    I had tried in putting in endlers,shrimps and galaxy to distract the male,they end up become his food.
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    Hi! Are they any other forms of hidding places in your set up for your pair of marcostoma?
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    Thanks for the replies

    The black wood gives several hiding places but as soon as they meet, its flaring and snapping again.

    I have decided to separate them for a couple of weeks and rehouse them again in another new tank.. wish me luck

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    looks like you have no other choice but to separate them for awhile.. Good luck to you hjuanie Keep us posted!
    Last edited by Quixotic; 2nd Nov 2008 at 18:31. Reason: Remove immediate quote
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    Perhaps using a clear divider to separate them may do the trick. While separated in the same tank, they can see and get to know each other, learning to share the tank with another fish. This is what most aquarists do with the more aggressive species, to varying degrees of success.

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    think you need to let them lock jaws for a while, for macrostomas.
    usually not much damage will be done, but caution to observe the state of the female especially, daily.
    usually after a while they will be less aggressive towards each other and they may mate even if proper care is given.
    putting a divider between them will not acclimatise them towards each other at all, since the moment the divider is lifted, they will claw at each other again.
    that's why they are called fighting fish not for nothing.
    but eventually the mating call will be more enticing and they will be lovey dovey when the conditions are right.
    good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wllm33 View Post
    think you need to let them lock jaws for a while, for macrostomas.
    usually not much damage will be done, but caution to observe the state of the female especially, daily.
    usually after a while they will be less aggressive towards each other and they may mate even if proper care is given.
    putting a divider between them will not acclimatise them towards each other at all, since the moment the divider is lifted, they will claw at each other again.
    that's why they are called fighting fish not for nothing.
    but eventually the mating call will be more enticing and they will be lovey dovey when the conditions are right.
    good luck.
    In the other words, daily observations required for the pair I suppose? Looks like thread starter may need alittle bit of luck...
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    Thanks for all the advice guys

    I think I will try the separation trick and see how it goes..

    Tried the clear divider way by placing one of them in a mini-aquarium within the main tank.. they started fighting the moment they weren't separated..

    Letting them fight may be the way, but it is heart wrenching to watch..

    Wish me luck. Will update in a couple of weeks! Hopefully with some pics..

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    They are a pair afterall. Do keep us posted and best of luck hjuanie
    By the way, are the sizes about the same?
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    The male is slightly larger, but not by much...

    Hopefully this works

    Thanks again!

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    Sounds alright.. Anyway, do let us know the outcome..
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    trust me, you cannot use the divider method, as the macs will lock jaws no matter when you mix them and how many times you try.
    so you got to put them together and observe carefully their behaviour if you want to breed them.
    If they are compatible , they will cool down after a while. Every pair is different in terms of time and manner before they become compatible.

    That's why they are expensive, as it is not easy to breed them because of their nature of behaviour.

    but if you want to breed macs you have to be brave. This betta is not for the faint heart.
    good luck.

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    Thanks!

    You are right, the first time I saw them fight...

    Will try to put them back together and observe again, if they persist in squabbling, then perhaps its time to get another pair to mix it up

    Thanks again!

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    You can also try swopping with another bro who may have the same problem
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    Generally,the fight would be non lethal ........

    But i have seen

    # a smaller male's head go in 1/3 inside the other larger male's mouth during fights

    # a male with a ripped mouth.

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    Regarding the fighting of the Macro, it is heard to be very common, and most often, 1 party will die, either of stress or sucide jump.

    Wondering is it that not every "pair" the lfs sellls is a pair, or we need luck to mix and match? Or buy many pieces for them to pair off like discus?

    I also read that they need big tank of about 3ft to breed?

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    you are right, some males only know how to fight.
    procreation is not in their dictionary.
    those "pairs" sold in lfs are only 1 male and 1 female.
    even so called proven pairs are also difficult when it comes to spawning.
    you just got to try your luck.

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