Reply With Quotewhere is C328? Clementi?
Just popped by C328 during lunch and saw many killies packed in individual small packets and sealed. I was told by the aunty that these just came in from Malaysia. There are at least 50 of them but unfortunately, only males.
From what I could see, there were some australes and some nothos.
Not related to them in any sense. If you're interested in keeping some colourful killies without the intention to breed, then go down and get some. Their conditions are very good, but I don't think they will stay that way in their tiny plastic bags.
Cheers.
yh
where is C328? Clementi?
Esther
Yup Esther you got that right.
Fish.. Simply Irresistable
Back to Killies... slowly.
To be exact it is clementi Blk 328 the shop near to the coffee shop.
Let me know if you going there. I miss the claypot rice.
The last time I went to Clementi was when I was still in NUS
I only remember one small fish shop in one corner but I don't think that is the one. Will go check it out... haha Kee Hoe let's go there together hmmm... either next tues or on 15 Nov or after 21 Nov. Me gonna be in Bangkok from 11 to 14 Nov and Japan from 16 to 21 Nov. Anyone needs anything from Thailand? I just bought a nothos from Yishun last night, but not sure specifically what nothos it is...... hope to find a mate for it though
Esther
Ester,
You might find it difficult getting that notho mate. LFS won't bother bringing in any females, while those who are breeding nothos probably sell only 'coded' pairs. It will be an injustice to their efforts to corrupt the line with a store-bought fish.
From what I understand, some Thai killie hobbyists take it one step further... sell only males to locals. No females, no exception.
This protectionist behaviour is counter-productive, just as some Europe-sourced fishes are deliberately shipped without codes.
I may sound picky but trust me. What we do now is for the hobby's long term good and hopefully, one day, we can all look back and be proud of what we've achieved.
I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
Ronnie Lee
hi Ronwill, no no you don't sound picky at all. I know where you are coming from. Actually I bought the notho more for keeping than breeding, of cuz if i can breed it, it's a plus. but the last time I wanna do is to corrupt the line of breed. No problem there me will just stick to my australes..
Esther
I have a bag of Notho eggs with location code if you wanna take care for me I am very happy to pass it to you. Just like what Kwek Leong did it last time. :-)
Mr Au SL your fish got to lay more eggs lot of buyer wanna get from you.
Hi all, i bought 2 killies from the shop and need some help in identify them. Can anyone tell me how to post photo here? The fins, nose yellow in color, red tail, red mesh on body.
The other one i think is Aus. Orange. The fish shop never put cover on top. Guys, if want to buy killies from them have to be quick. Before all dive out. Initially i bought 3, the Aus. Orange jump out, i ask the shop keeper help me catch it back (rescue from a hard to reach crack). By the time i reach home, i reallise only two is in my air tight bag. One is missing at the time the shop keeper packing.
That explain why the fishes are in plastic bag at the time the photo is taken. I haven't have my cardboard ready yet ^^
Fishes from C328
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Keehoe, from your pretty blur picture what you might have there, apart from a male A. australe Orange (I think), the other fish is a male Nothobranchius foerschi.
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ALL the current australe in the hobby that do not have a collection code have come from stock imported to Germany and sent all about the world via Joergen Scheel, Ernst Roloff, Walter Foersch etc... You cannot possible "contaminate" your australe lines with store bought fish as they all come from the same source. Chocolate, Orange/Gold, Spotless, these are all variations from the same line and their is no danger in crossing in such a line. It may take some time selectively breeding for a true breeding brown or spotted line but that is about the sum of the problem. If any thing the farm bred fish imported into the shops are of excellent genetic quality---after all they had to put up with probably deplorable conditions by our standards and then still managed to spawn in large enough numbers for sale.Originally Posted by Ronnie
Concerning Nothos, to the untrained eye foerschi looks a helluva lot like a palmqvisti. Unless you are 100% sure of the speceis do not go spouse hunting. If you have to cross out to another strain (you don't know the strain of the shop fish) then make double sure to mark your strain by a totally different strain name (e.g. SGCI 04) to ensure it never gets crossed with a pure strain of known quality.
That said, you are probably much better off getting good stock from local breeders than in shops from foreign sources. You know what you are getting and you know where it came from.
tt4n
About foerschi and palmquisti - I can verify that.
I got a palmquisti male yesterday for my 6 females.
And I think that male is the spitting image of my foerschi males.
I tried to compare with images from killidata-online but they seem to have a log-in problem this week-end.
What is really the difference between those species?
Erik Thurfjell
SKS 138, BKA 838-05, AKA 08998, SAA 251
Hello Svein
N. foerschi males have a bright yellow nose. The anal and dorsal fin doe snot have diagonal banding like in palmqvisti. On foerschi the body is a uniform iridescent blue while in PLM one will normally see more red and some black barring towards the rear. Here are some halfway decent pics of foerschi, and here are some of palmqvisti.
tt4n
Thanks guys. I seen a fish in aquabid that looks exactly like that one i have. The name is Nothobranchius Foerschi 'TZ91/103'. Not sure what the tailing code is, but very much confirm what stormhawk said.
These fish that i bought from LFS is for display only. Not for breeding as they only sell male fish anyway.
Will be getting a pair or two of known history for breeding. No particular target species yet.
OK (itīs Erik BTW - the Swedish guy - Sveinn is the guy from Norway).
I have to agree that my P-male is more similar to the P-images and my F-males ditto to the F-images. But it is not much of a difference. That could not be enough to declare them as different species I would say.
Erik Thurfjell
SKS 138, BKA 838-05, AKA 08998, SAA 251
Hi Keehoe,
Your's indeed is the Nothobrchanius foerschi. Please do not append 'TZ91/103' to the fish where you got from the LFS. I know where Clementi 328 got their stock from and Nothobrcnchius palmqvisti is not in the list.
Au SL
Hi Kho,
You should know my how I get my fish distributed. I'm only interested to pass my fish on to those really keen hobbyists. Besides this, I will not want to get my tank occupied with a particular species just for the sake of selling them.
I think I 'll still prefer to only get those excess fishes out if I have. Usually only a few pairs are available at any point of time. :P This way, I can make sure that the fish will not bt under value by hobbyists here.
On the other hand, I may consider your suggestion for the next coming month where I'll have some excess pairs available from various species as I'll be away for a hoilday trip and at the same time I need to get some $$ to pay for the website hosting fee
Au SL
There is no way that can prevent people from appending the code to it.Please do not append 'TZ91/103' to the fish where you got from the LFS.
If the LFS chose to append code and that is the worse it can go. :-(
Hello Erik (sorry
At one stage they were regarded as the same species. N. foerschi used to be traded as N. palmqvisti Dar es Salaam until it was described in 1979 by Wildekamp & Berkenkamp as a distinct species. Wildekamp is quite conservative and I think we can be sure they are different species.I have to agree that my P-male is more similar to the P-images and my F-males ditto to the F-images. But it is not much of a difference. That could not be enough to declare them as different species I would say.
tt4n
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