Boraras from Bangkok

[Green Baron]

Kwek Leong,
I would like to have some too in my planted tank if there are any left.
I like small and peaceful fish. Which LFS can I find Boraras spp ?

Gan

[hwchoy]

Gan, I understand Fish'n Fishes just restocked their Boraras spp. but doubt if they will have the Boraras sp.

[CM Media]

Hi guys,

Last night I received a SMS from Sia Meng mentioning that he may not be able to bring back so many fishes as he has too many thing to bring back from Bangkok for his family members. So guys, don't pin too high hopes on this..

[gweesm1]

Au,

Thanks for conveying the message for me. My wife turned crazy when we went to MBK. She bought lots of things and we need to buy a new luggage.

Guys

I brought back 200 Boraras and will be keeping 100 for myself. I am not able to carry more as they were packed in 25 pieces a bag.

KL please let me know when you want to collect.

Regards,

[timebomb]

KL please let me know when you want to collect.

Hey, welcome home, buddy :smile: You didn't buy all? Awww

I can collect anytime. Just let me know when you will be free and I'll pop over. Too bad you didn't bring home more Boraras. Now that I've only getting a hundred more, I will have to charge.

Loh K L

[Nonn]

Loh, when I told you they are new species, you didn't believe me, now want 100 more !!!!!!

I used to breed Boraras uropthalmoides in a small lotus pond - diameter about 3 feet. In the pond, there is one lotus, a few tape, some hair algea, and 3 pairs of the fish. I feed them dahnia once in a while, other wise they find their own food in their mini-natural habitat. I would find some small fry in the pond once in a while, I guickly net them out to separate pond and grow them there. Foolishly, I introduce some Endler's Livebearer into the same pond and I never get any Boraras fry again.

Moral of the story? They will breed for you, you don't have to breed them. And don't keep them with any other fish if you want them to breed for you.

[Nonn]

Btw, Gwee it was brief but nice to meet you anyway.

[RonWill]

Loh, when I told you they are new species, you didn't believe me, now want 100 more !!!!!!

yeah... he's greedy alright! Now I'll have to wrestle some off him (just kidding...)

Nonn, in your boraras mini pond, when they were breeding... are there any shrimps inside? While my 'fertile luck' is holding up, I'd like to give these little fellas a try too!

Moral of the story? They will breed for you, you don't have to breed them. And don't keep them with any other fish if you want them to breed for you.

What about pygmy cory and ottos... none of these too?

[timebomb]

Loh, when I told you they are new species, you didn't believe me, now want 100 more !!!!!!

It's not that I didn't believe you, Nonn but I'm a skeptical person by nature :smile:. I need to see proof before I can believe. It's so unlikely that there can be a Boraras that isn't identified as there are so many books written about them. I saw a few and read one in a fish shop which describes nothing but this group of fishes. The fact that these fish live in shoals and surely would exist in the thousands in their natural habitats makes you wonder why no one has classified this species already.

The other thing that made me skeptical that the fish is a new species is the price the fish shop was selling them. I was in one of our local fish shops and they were selling the wild Boraras for Sing $2 a piece. The fish shop in Bangkok sold this new species for only 10% of that price. I'm quite surprised and puzzled by this. If the same species appears here, chances are the fish shops would sell them at much higher prices.

I have 150 pieces of this new species now and I bet I can sell them to Ronnie and Choy for Sing $2 a piece and they would still pay up happily

Loh K L

[hwchoy]

there are a ton of fishes that are "new" species simply because the scientist hasn't gotten around to describing and naming them. and why, because their research grants, such as those given by FAO, are meant for researching fishes that will feed the hungry masses, not some tiny fish that will only bring joy to rich people like you who worries if his fry will go hungry or not

so, just remember, "new" doesn't mean rare, and "no name" doesn't mean unidentified

[TS168]

HI Choy,

How do you manage to get your Boraras brigittae, Boraras merah and Boraras maculatus so colorful, as i could see the redness of the color.

I have some but they are not all so red. Most are slightly near to orange.

Please advise? Food? Environment?

Thanks

[hwchoy]

I notice the recent imports are all not very colourful. I had a batch of brigittae recently too and a few are very red but most are only so so. Try to give them a nice planted home and nice artemia to eat. One more way is to try keeping them in green water for a while.

[TS168]

Sorry choy, what is artemia? And how to get green water?

[hwchoy]

artemia = a sexier sounding name for brine shrimp :wink:
green water, must ask Kwek Leong. He has this big cube tank which is impenetrable with green water, and his Boraras sp. is very nice and healthy man :P

[TS168]

thanks choy, i now feed them with tubiflix worm. And i notice one of the fish will shake it body around another fish and follow it around.

What does this mean? mating? Not so fast right?

[hwchoy]

for mating behaviour you have to ask the sex guru himself, Ronnie Lee

I thought they are rather too small to feed on tubifex. also I hope you disinfect them properly.

[RonWill]

Teck Song,

I ain't no guru but just because the fishes go shaking, doesn't mean they're spawning. It could be 2 males doing their 'spar thing'.

Sometimes, as much as we'd like to observe, the actual spawning dance eludes us. I've never seen my White Cloud Mountain Minnows, Scarlet badis and Goa Killies 'making whoopie' but leave 'em with lotsa java moss and pull the breeders out after a week.

Give mild aeration in the breeding tank and you'll likely see some frys after 10 days or so. Plenty of micro-organisms will ensure high survival rate.

How difficult can that be? :wink:

[felixe]

Hi guys,

http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallery/gallary/gallary_dwerf.html
http://www.geocities.co.jp/AnimalPar.../7789/koi.html
http://www.petfarm.jp/gallery/charac...ima/minima.htm
http://www.cnet-club.com/price/rasubora_c1_1.html

I think that Japanese aquarists have a special talents in gathering and naming them.
Hope you like these links.

[hwchoy]

Hi guys,

http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallery/gallary/gallary_dwerf.html
http://www.geocities.co.jp/AnimalPar.../7789/koi.html
http://www.petfarm.jp/gallery/charac...ima/minima.htm
http://www.cnet-club.com/price/rasubora_c1_1.html

I think that Japanese aquarists have a special talents in gathering and naming them.
Hope you like these links.

gathering and taking pics, yes. naming them I'm not so sure

[felixe]

I agree with you.

Actually, sometimes I wonder why I should immersed in the "scientific" things
far from the vulgar everyday world, "fish-keeping"

Yes, some of them regarded as a carelessness amature,
but IMHO, they are just a serious aquarists, like us.

p.s.
If you have an intrest about this subject, here is an another link written
in japanese language. You can translate it anyway, with the Babel fish or something else.