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    my tank is about a month old now but i can't seem to be able to keep any shrimps alive. I bought a yamato shrimp when i just started and it died just hours later. a week later, i bought a bag of malaya shrimps ( i think there are more than 10 in the bag) from Y618 for $2 but they lasted less than a day. My friend told me that the water condition wasn't good. So i waited for the water to muture and tried again with 4 yamato shrimps but they also lasted less than a day. Any advice?

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    hello willy, if you could kindly provide as much data about your tank as possible, folks here could probably have given you an answer straight away.

    But in general, shrimps do not like high ammonia, excessively low pH, as well as big swings in water parameters. A good practice is to float the newly purchased shrimp bag in the tank water, while slowly adding the tank water to the bag (over an hour or so) until the water conditions equalise. Coolish temperatures (below 30) also help.

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    Hi Willy, I had the same problem as you previously. My cause was prob high temp as I placed my tank next to the window. Try to keep your tank temp below 30 degrees.

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    I used to have same problem. But after i use the Aquasafe clorine/Chloramine/heavy metal remover, my shrimps are now healthy and producing eggs very often. I think it could be the heavy metal in the water that causes it.

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    I don't know why shrimps often die when they are introduced into our tanks but I can tell you a few things that I've observed. I used to believe too that the deaths are either a result of chlorine in the water or the difference in parameters in the water between the tanks and the plastic bags holding the shrimps.

    But let me tell you a couple of things I've done.

    When I rescaped my big tank a couple of months ago, I did a complete tear-down. I removed all the plants and fish and siphoned away the top layer of gravel. The only living organisms I didn't remove were the shrimps and I had lots of them. I changed the water several times by siphoning it down to the level of the gravel and topping it up with water directly from the tap. In other words, I did a 100% water change. Please take note that I did this several times. I also added in some base fertiliser and to do that, I have to push the gravel around. Whilst doing that, many shrimps were buried alive.

    When the tank was re-filled with water, the shrimps that were not buried were happy and healthy and look none the worst for their traumatic experience. Other than those that were buried, not a single shrimp died. Not immediately after and not for months later - Not a single shrimp died.

    I also keep many different mosses in small plastic containers lying around in my balcony. In each container, I have a few shrimps. Periodically, I change all the water in these containers by using my hand as a sieve and pouring all the water out and refilling it again with new water direct from the tap. I have never seen a shrimp die from this 100% water change.

    I think my experiences with the shrimp seem to indicate that there's still a lot more we can learn about them. The shrimps I have are Cherry, Malayan and those from Taiwan known as Black-shelled Shrimp. Here are pictures of a Black-Shell and a Malayan.




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    Quote Originally Posted by timebomb
    I don't know why shrimps often die when they are introduced .... I have never seen a shrimp die from this 100% water change.
    There are people with green fingers and there are people with shrimp fingers, killi fingers and moss fingers like Kwek Leong.

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    I believe that different area have different water parameters. I have move house 4 times from west to north, north to east and then central. I have different experience each time when i set up take for fishes and shrimps. I used to be quite successful breeding Discus when i stay in clementi, no anti-clorine added to new water at all and they are still doing very well. Not so when i moved to the north. Could it be cause by Feng Shui also?? Hmm superstitious har.

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    i live in the north too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero
    I believe that different area have different water parameters. I have move house 4 times from west to north, north to east and then central. I have different experience each time when i set up take for fishes and shrimps. I used to be quite successful breeding Discus when i stay in clementi, no anti-clorine added to new water at all and they are still doing very well. Not so when i moved to the north. Could it be cause by Feng Shui also?? Hmm superstitious har.
    well, now that you live practically next door to timebomb, are your shrimps doing well?
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    I never have problem with shrimp, I guess the below helps:
    1) cool water/below 28 degree celcius
    2) adequate water hardness, especially calcium content - I add few pcs of coral chips to my filter, last for months. This avoid shrimp's shell (made priminary of calcium) erosion due to acidic water from CO2 injection/ammonia. Or change water regularly to replenish the Ca.
    3) avoid keeping them with big fishes and discus who may feast on them. I do keep discus but my shrimps have enough hideouts among the plants.

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    Basically there's no problem with critters except during SARS period when i have a few shrimps died. However there's problem with my Erect Moss, it's turning brown and not erect as it supposed to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero
    not erect as it supposed to be.
    Maybe you need some Viagra

    Peter Chua, my good friend who can grow many aquatic plants couldn't get the moss to grow erect too. But that's because Peter is an old man and doesn't have enough libido You're young, Subzero so you shouldn't have any problems.

    But seriously, if your moss is turning brown, chances are it's because the water is too warm. What are you using to cool your tanks?

    Loh K L

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    Never doubt me man... i'm still young

    I am using 1 DC fan which should be powerful enough as it maintain my water temperature at 27 degree C. I thought it might be due to over dosage of liquid fert (Dr Malick, JBL, Tropica etc) and trace element. However they are not doing any better even with 100% water changed and stop dozing fert completely.

    I have setup another 2 ft tank to put the moss, no fan/base fert and gravel but with sunlight and the mosses are doing well so far. So i suspect that it might be my Base Fert that causes it.

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    is it possible to grow plants without and base fert?

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    When I first started many years ago. I never use base fert, only Root moster because I was also blur but it works for me for about 4 years or more until recently when I redo my tank.

    If you will to read the instruction on a SERA base fert that I bought, it said that it can only last for 2-3 months and than you need to add fert stick or tabs. Now, I'm more blur.

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    root monster? you mean the oceanfree fert?

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    root monster? you mean the oceanfree fert?
    Yes.

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    Alternatively, you can use Horti tab, readily available in NTUC.

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    plants like moss, fern, hornwort, nanas doesn't need base fert. However the tank will not look perfect without root plants.

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    Alternatively, you can use Horti tab, readily available in NTUC.
    Hi Willy

    Try Aquatic Plant Spikes by Jobes instead, quite good. I bought it from Far East Flora.

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