Our eggs have arrived AGAIN!

**stormhawk** · 27th Oct 2004, 23:50

Yi Hong,

Please refrain from directly linking pictures off auctions because the copyright belongs to the photographer or the owner of the fish. Pillet is a friend of mine and I would appreciate that you ask for his permission before uploading a picture in the future. :wink:

Yes, collection codes can mean a world of difference, especially in terms of colouration but in some cases, the codes are duplicates of each other. Meaning, the fish are given different codes in different years but were all caught in the same pond in different years. However, if the fish comes with the code, please ensure that you do not lose it. :wink:

**RonWill** · 27th Oct 2004, 23:53

hmm... kinda odd that the others didn't update yet but I can safely say that for Gan's (Turaco) Paraphyosemion mirabile moense 'Nguti' HAH 98(MOE), it's doing reasonably well.

Gan reported a skewed sex ratio in his batch, predominantly male, at almost 80%. Of the survivors, 1F/5M now resides in my tank as part of the core-group's safety net.

I checked on their spawning mop and it was almost empty albeit for a few eggs, which I'll 'dry-mop-incubate'. [until the species is well established locally, every single egg is precious]

Jian Yang informed that the more accepted name for the species is Fundulopanchax mirabilis moensis 'Nguti' HAH 98 and this is what the male looks like.

Gan, how are your MOE doing?

**TyroneGenade** · 28th Oct 2004, 00:54

Actually, I don't think Paraphyosemion has yet been put forward as a full Genus yet... but it will, so no harm in practicing early.:-)

**turaco** · 28th Oct 2004, 21:56

Ron, the fish are fine. Nearly lost the female on one occasion. No egg on mop though

.

**timebomb** · 28th Oct 2004, 22:19

Ronnie,

I have one young male Aphyosemion elberti 'Nange Eboko' (ELB). He's the only survivor. I'll let you have him if you have the females.

Loh K L

**killiesmania** · 28th Oct 2004, 22:53

Hi guys,

I was surfing the net and came across aquabid and there is this breeder who will post overseas... so... I am tempted to order from him. However I have doubts about transportation costs and whether the fishes will have trouble surviving the journey... anyone has any experiences?

I was thinking of transporting by Fedex... something about three days to arrive.... anyone has experience ordering from overseas? Please share, thank you very much...

David

p.s.
Ron, I meant that that the image you posted isn't a fish that I would like to have....

**RonWill** · 29th Oct 2004, 01:13

Originally Posted by killiesmania

Ron, I meant that that the image you posted isn't a fish that I would like to have....

David, I'm not sure which image you're referring to

Your post (Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:58 pm) stated, "Saw the pic... doesnt look like what I have in mind...."

Whereas my image upload of the Paraphyosemion mirabile moense 'Nguti' HAH 98 was on Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:53 pm. I back-tracked to the beginning of this thread and the previous images were of fry with spinal curvature... something I'd rather avoid as well.

We're either in different time zones or one of us is confused; responding to another member or following the wrong thread perhaps?

**RonWill** · 29th Oct 2004, 02:59

It's an ironic senario of 'too little, too late', Kwek Leong.

Your 'Nange Eboko' was part of the 2nd egg order, while mine was a won Aquabid auction, mentioned in this post. The sole survivor was a female, growing together with Simp constanciae that were later infected badly with ich and secondary infection. I lost the whole lot, including the elberti.

Looks like you will have a bachelor boy for a while, at least until someone brings in an extra female (which is why I'm always mindful about species 'safety-net').

**killiesmania** · 29th Oct 2004, 07:38

[quote="RonWill"]

Originally Posted by killiesmania

We're either in different time zones or one of us is confused; responding to another member or following the wrong thread perhaps?

Ron,

Lets just say I was confused

So if you had experience about the costs of ordering from overseas, please pm me... thanks..

**RonWill** · 29th Oct 2004, 15:27

Some people won't appreciate or understand why killies don't come cheap but before reading further, David, secure your lower jaw to skull, lest it drops onto the floor.

Shipping cost via USPS Global Express Mail (EMS with shipment tracking) will set you back on average [US$28/3pairs, $45/12pairs & $97/28pairs]*, arriving in about 4~5days. Fedex, DHL and other courier services will be faster (with even higher shipping costs).

'Stock' will do ok if seller is versed in shipping internationally and knows how to pack.

* Excuse my brevity but if there's something I 'missed' out, it's probably intentional. Drop me an email instead.

**killiesmania** · 29th Oct 2004, 20:00

Hi,

has anyone ordered with David Mikkelsen from aquabid?

**RonWill** · 29th Oct 2004, 20:59

David, try letting your fingers do the walking. If not, hit the forum's 'Search' button... it really works albeit some time needed to sieve through the posts.

Perhaps this "Egg availability list" and this thread (4th post from bottom of page) will provide a clue to your question concerning Mr Mikkelsen, as well as your PM regarding SJO? [I did say email, didn't I

]

There are little jewels of information in our archive or past posts/threads, and much to learn from there. Do take some effort going through them, it's a treasure trove of tips, how-to's, why's and more importantly, a cyberlog of our experience who have 'been there, done that'.

I can assure you, or anyone else for that matter, that it is worth your time.

**killiesmania** · 29th Oct 2004, 23:33

After reading through all the posts, I figured that the hatch rate is rather low for most orders? Then, perhaps I should just order the fishes... then at least I can see the fishes...

Timebomb,

How are the SJO that you ordered some time ago... care to share some pics of them? Quite smitten by SJO...

David

**stormhawk** · 30th Oct 2004, 06:58

David, the SJOs are available locally on occasions with stocks coming in from commercial breeders, possibly from our northern neighbour. Male SJOs do appear from time to time and females, as usual, are not easy to come by. Look out for some oddball killies in the shops every now and then.

**killiesmania** · 30th Oct 2004, 07:21

Hi Jianyang,

Good to know that SJO are available locally. Do you have any idea specifically which LFS are known to carry them? The LFS that carry male killie that I know of is C328 (original) and spotted some females with males last year at Tropical (Pasir Ris farms)... Recently, only spotted C328 carrying males. Also, do you know of any members who have SJO stock?

Thanks

David

**stormhawk** · 30th Oct 2004, 08:00

The SJOs are no longer kept among the members I know. They have either died of old age or disease. Fertility is not high with this species from my observations at a friend's place. I understand that there might be one or two members who are still maintaining them. Whether these are being spawned and raised, I do not know but I believe they are.

The shop that I heard recently with stocks of SJO is Eco-Culture down at Lavender Street (Eminent Plaza). Whether they still have them I'm not sure but you can go down and take a look. They also have young trios of Fp. gardneri "N'sukka" which you might want to try.

Another shop which I saw selling killifish would be Ultimate Aquarium at Bukit Merah. Nearest MRT is Tiong Bahru. Walk towards Bukit Merah. Shop is situated at a hilltop market/shopping area along a winding road.

Other shops, apart from C328 (males only), are Choong Sua Aquarium (occasionally pairs) and some farms which I'm not too sure of. The farms will bring in killies in large consignments but whether you get the RIGHT female for the RIGHT male is another issue. Many importers frequently mix in the females since they look all the same. This is the case with Nothobranchius species being brought in. Also applies to other species like Aphyosemions.

On a sidenote, I have seen beautiful species like Simp. magnificus, fulminantis and Aphanius mento but nobody bought them. Sad indeed. If you're really into killies, give those Ep. togolensis at CS a home to live in. I kept 4 of these myself not too long ago before the last male decided to "konk" out. They may look boring to some people but are just as decent as any killifish are and that includes Simp. constanciae. An under-rated species that people tend to overlook because of their drab stress colouration. A full-grown Simp. constanciae male is a stunning fish with blue highlights in the dorsal and anal fins. This species was also offered for sale quite some time ago and nobody bought them.

**killiesmania** · 30th Oct 2004, 09:23

Hi Jianyang,

Thanks for the info, will be visiting the two shops you mentioned as well as Au's place in the afternoon to get some pairs... Also, do you have the road name for Ultimate Aquarium? Dont remember a hill near Tiong Bahru... Do you know the market's name? Thanks

David

**killiesmania** · 30th Oct 2004, 09:37

Got the address for Ultimate, its at Blk 116, Bukit merah View. Thanks.

**PohSan** · 30th Oct 2004, 17:18

Hi all,
This is update of the egg ordered:

1) Paraphyosemion mirabile moense 'Bakebe' (MOE) [in peat]
4 dead - Zero left

2) Paraphyosemion mirabilis traudae 'Tinto' [in breather bag]

6 left - encountered deformed spline and shunt growth.

Regards,
Ong Poh San

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