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    Emersed growth setup

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    I've recently started to grow a lot of aquatic plants emersed. I find
    it very easy, efficient and low maintenance. A few weeks ago I
    setup a 2.5g tank with a 50% sand 50% peat substrate. I made it
    really moist and then just sprinkled some pellia on one half and
    a few fronds of xmas moss on the other. Sealed the tank with plastic
    wrap and set it near a window where it would get diffused sunlight.
    Today I took a peek in there and things are doing really well.
    The pellia has doubled in mass, and the xmas moss has grown a
    few inches. encouraged by this, I setup two more identical tanks,
    with one devoted to xmass moss and the other to erect moss.
    Have any of you tried anything similar?

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    Re: Emersed growth setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazanfar Ghori
    I've recently started to grow a lot of aquatic plants emersed. I find
    it very easy, efficient and low maintenance. A few weeks ago I
    setup a 2.5g tank with a 50% sand 50% peat substrate. I made it
    really moist and then just sprinkled some pellia on one half and
    a few fronds of xmas moss on the other. Sealed the tank with plastic
    wrap and set it near a window where it would get diffused sunlight.
    Today I took a peek in there and things are doing really well.
    The pellia has doubled in mass, and the xmas moss has grown a
    few inches. encouraged by this, I setup two more identical tanks,
    with one devoted to xmass moss and the other to erect moss.
    Have any of you tried anything similar?
    Ghazanfar
    KL and I have tried growing mosses this way with not much success. I think one the reasons is many species of mosses will only grow when they have established a foot hold on the substrate; and mosses seem to do better on 'solid' surfaces to sand/soil. Xmas and Erect for example do not do well when left floating in water or grown emersed on sand. Java and Taiwan moss, on the other hand can thrive without any substrate.

    Or maybe we did something wrong.. I hope you have better luck growing them emersed.

    What I have been successful at is growing mosses on driftwoods in semi-submersed mode.
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    Re: Emersed growth setup

    Ghazanfar,

    Do you have any picture or url for your setup?

    I saw what Ronnie and Kwek Leong did with the emerse setup. Quite like it that way, I would to learn more from you guys and maybe copy cat the setup.

    Thanks

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    Re: Emersed growth setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Gan CW
    Or maybe we did something wrong.. I hope you have better luck growing them emersed.

    What I have been successful at is growing mosses on driftwoods in semi-submersed mode.
    So far the growth Ive seen of xmas moss in the above setup has
    been encouraging. I'll take some pictures soon to show you progress
    over the next few weeks. It's growing faster than it does submersed
    or semi/emersed on wood.

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    Re: Emersed growth setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazanfar Ghori
    I've recently started to grow a lot of aquatic plants emersed. I find
    it very easy, efficient and low maintenance. A few weeks ago I
    setup a 2.5g tank with a 50% sand 50% peat substrate. I made it
    really moist and then just sprinkled some pellia on one half and
    a few fronds of xmas moss on the other. Sealed the tank with plastic
    wrap and set it near a window where it would get diffused sunlight.
    Today I took a peek in there and things are doing really well.
    The pellia has doubled in mass, and the xmas moss has grown a
    few inches. encouraged by this, I setup two more identical tanks,
    with one devoted to xmass moss and the other to erect moss.
    Have any of you tried anything similar?
    Hi Ghazanfar. Did you mix the sand and peat togethere or sand on top peat below?

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    I mixxed the peat and sand quite well, but some peat floated
    up due to watering and now theres a thin layer of just peat on top.

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    Where did you but the sand and peat from? How much did it cost?

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    Re: Emersed growth setup

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazanfar Ghori
    Have any of you tried anything similar?
    Ghazanfar,

    Yes, I tried something similar. I used plastic tubs with peat inside. The tubs are sealed with lids and the mosses are placed on top of the peat. But the mosses don't grow for us this way. Maybe it's got something to do with the humidity over here. You can see how I did it in this thread.

    The only way I can grow them emersed is to put the mosses on a piece of driftwood and keep them moist all the time with water pumped from a powerhead.

    Loh K L

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    Re: Emersed growth setup

    Quote Originally Posted by timebomb
    The only way I can grow them emersed is to put the mosses on a piece of driftwood and keep them moist all the time with water pumped from a powerhead.
    Kwek Leong,
    Rashid and Choy took some pics of how I experimented growing the erect moss emersed and it can't be any simpler.

    Let them upload the pics and you'll throw away that powerhead!
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
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    Ronnie's emersed erect moss

    Here are the pictures...enjoy

    This is where the erect moss is housed. Erect moss are place onto the drift wood. Initially Ronnie did tied them up to the drift wood but he found out that after a few days/weeks the erect moss have clinched itself to the drift wood. The drift wood is then placed in a sealed container and every now and then Ronnie will spray them with his "secret recipe". That is all that I know and perhaps Ronnie himself will better explain his experiment which have a few of us





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    Ronnie,

    I would be interested to see how long they could stay grow erected, 8 inch?

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    I wonder if this will work for all mosses...

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    Well - let me report back with the few days of results.
    The erect moss and xmass moss is growing quite well so far.

    My setup

    2.5G tank
    Peat moss
    Plastic wrap

    I put a 1" layer of moist peat on the bottom of the 2.5G tank.
    Took some fronds of the moss and patted them down on top
    of the moist peat. I pretty much covered the entire bottom
    evenly. Sealed the tank with the plastic wrap to maintain
    high humidity and placed it near a window where it would get
    diffused sunlight.
    The first few days everything looked pretty bad. It was all brown.
    Didn't look good at all. However, I peeked in this morning and
    I see hundreds of small little green fronds growing from everywhere.
    It seems that there is growth from each 'node'! I'll update with pictures
    tonight.

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    Hi,

    Seems like your emersed Christmas Moss is really growing very well, Ghanzafar. I wonder why it didn't work for me? The method I used was about the same as yours - peat in a tub with a lid.

    Loh K L

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    Actually those pictures are of erect moss. I wasn't able to get
    any decent picture of the xmass moss - my 1.5 yr old son kept
    running off with my flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghazanfar Ghori
    I wasn't able to get any decent picture of the xmass moss - my 1.5 yr old son kept running off with my flash.
    Ghazanfar, perhaps you should have employed a tripod instead :wink:

    For the erect moss, how long did it take to reach it's present state? In some earlier pictures that Rashid uploaded on my behalf, the erect moss was able to gain footage on the driftwood and spread, in about 3 weeks. Personally I'm impressed by their growth rate, the ease in propagation and this encouraged me to start experimenting with Christmas moss as well (I could never get Xmas moss to grow in a tank!).

    Kwek Leong,
    I suspect that when Ghanzafar patted down the moss onto the peat, the media was very damp but not soaking wet. My observations tell me that the moss was slow to grow in waterlogged areas of the driftwood. Why that is so, is still unclear to me.

    Also, Ghanzafar's use of plastic wrap was to maintain extremely high level of humidity. You may be using a takeaway container/tub but I suggest you seal off that tiny ventilating hole on the lid and see if it works any better.

    A week ago, I kicked off another experiment with a taller piece of driftwood in a 'cling-wrap' covered tank. It has about 2cm height of water and I'm relying on the retained humidity to keep the java moss from drying out (since there's no way capillary action can draw water up 9 inches high).

    Prior to 'sealing' the tank, I misted the wood with diluted organic fertilizer (chicken poop). Will update when there's someting to crow about :wink:
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonWill
    Prior to 'sealing' the tank, I misted the wood with diluted organic fertilizer (chicken poop).
    Chicken poop Hmm, so that's the "secret recipe" Rashid mentioned.

    Loh K L

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    I setup that tank on Friday - so from that day till the picture
    was taken it was about 5 days. The first 3 days of that things
    did not look good at all. All the moss was brown and nasty. I thought
    I'd killed it all off. I'll post another picture in a week to compare
    growth rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebomb
    ...so that's the "secret recipe" Rashid mentioned
    oops.... did I let the hen out of the coop??

    Kwek Leong, I'm not advocating that you do likewise but it was something I had to try (my curiousity was killin' me). My potted-plants do well when I use organic fertilizer and active compost from my vermiculture, so why not see if emersed moss thrive with it.

    Never try, never know :wink:
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
    Ronnie Lee

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