ANN-E = European-sourced Ps. annulatus

[RonWill]

Just letting you know that the ANNs I got from you are doing well and I have already scooped out about 20 frys from the tank. Using Liquidfry No.1 and green water to feed them. Some are already big enough to eat BBS

Michael, that's great news! Nothing beats the satisfaction of being able to raise tiny tiny ANNs!

If the method you're using differs from mine, please describe your breeding setup for the ANNs, so that others who like them as much as we do, can try breeding them too.

Parents might ignore their fry but older fry will predate on the younger siblings. Separate them.

If your eyesight is as bad as mine, then take a pic of the collected fry in a plastic soup spoon and count them from the monitor

[Michsoon]

Sure Ron,

I got a very simple set up. I got two pairs in a 10 inch guppy tank with a plant. Feed them with pellets, BBS, Microworms and bloodworms, change 1/2 tank of water every week. Since I have all my tanks outside the house with some morning sun, green algae grows on the tanks and plants. Noticed that the ANNs lays the eggs on the algae also while trying to clean the tank of it so I just left the algae alone.

I have separated the first batch of frys last week and put in a drop of liquidfry #1 twice a day and now adding BBS and microworms daily. Saw a few more in the parents tanks but leaving them alone till next week to spoon into another fry tank to avoid fry predation from the first batch. I do add liquidfry once a day into the parents tanks now since there are some frys there.

Don't know what I am doing right but as long as they are happy I'll just keep what I am doing.

Regards,
Michael

[Svein]

Thank's Ron for helping me, and it's nice to see the interest for the ANN, in fact it was my first Killis ever in 1978, and I think the species is quite easy to work with, The "problem" is that the young fry is very small, but I have used Paramecium, which have become "a must" for me breeding small species.




Here is my species
Aphyosemion celia winnifredae "Ebonji"
Aphyosemion cognatum
Austrolebias alexandri "Ceibas"
Austrolebias nigripinnis "Carmelo"
Chromaphyoseminon cf. splendopleure
Chromaphyoseminon splendopleure "Penda Mboko K6"
Chromaphyoseminon splendopleure "Big Ikange Camp"
Chromaphyoseminon bitaeniatum "Lagos"
Epiplatys dageti "Monrovia"
Fundulopanchax gardneri "nigrianus P 82
Fundulopanchax puerzli "Ndokama"
Fundulopanchax scheeli
Fundulosoma thierryi
Leptolebias fractifasciatus "Inoa
Leptolebias citrinipinnis (fluminensis) "Barra de Marica"
Nothobranchius spec. aff. rubripinnis Tan 97/27
Nothobranchius eggersi Tan 95/7
Pseudepiplatys annulatus "Kolente"
Rivulus frenatus GUY 97/20
Simpsonichtys suzarti
Simpsonichtys magnificus "Itacarambi B/7
regards
Svein

[RonWill]

Thank's Ron for helping me, and it's nice to see the interest for the ANN, in fact it was my first Killis ever in 1978, and I think the species is quite easy to work with, The "problem" is that the young fry is very small, but I have used Paramecium, which have become "a must" for me breeding small species

You're welcomed, Svein. ANNs aren't my first killies but was searching for them for a long time (maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough). Micro-foods is definitely a must with these fellas and I finally managed to get 2 tubes of OSI's APR, which I'll try once I get on with the ANN breeding program.

What you're maintaining now is pretty impressive. Let's hope for the day when local forum members are able to stabilize the specie-count and to swap.

Michael, thanks for penning down your experience. Conditioning the ANN breeders is as important as appropriate sized food for the fry. Keep us updated of your progress (and don't forget to shoot some pics too!)

[Svein]

Mark: Sorry but I didn't see your question
My set up tanke for ANN is an trio for 18 liters (4.5 gallon?) It's a hygenic tank with a little peat in the corner (lower ph) (ph about 6.4-5)
Very soft water.
I have a LOT of javamoss and java fern 2/3 of the tank, and a couple of spawningmops.
That is how I'm keeping them :wink:
Regards Svein

[TyroneGenade]

Those are real nice ANN... I don't suppose some knows a good source of super colourful ANN Monrovia here in Europe, specifically Italy?

Ciao

[RonWill]

Hi Tyrone, welcome to the forum and we hope you'll enjoy the discussions.

I believe you're aware that the ANN Monrovia presently in distribution, aren't what they used to be, in that there's little to no red coloration at the anal fin.

Whether this is due to line corruption or diet is something I can never say for sure but good ANN specimens will remain scarce.

[Slaigar]

That is a nice setup Svein. Is there any type of filtration for the tank? I might try to copy your set up =).

Quite a hefty amount of species you have there! I think I see a trade coming in the near future!

[stormhawk]

Tyrone, if you're in Italy you should contact members of the Italian Killifish Association. I think their chairman, Mr Valdesalici, maybe able to point you to some good sources. Alternatively, there should be stocks available in Germany and France. With your contacts I don't think that should be a problem. :wink:

[TyroneGenade]

One would think Stefano would have some good contacts for ANN Monrovia Red but as it happens he doesn't... Likewise I'm also out of contacts. The closest I got was Wright but we've now all read his sad story.

I have the addresses of several people in Germany but my German is rather poor and AltaVista's translator only churns out Caveman German (as my Austrian friend back in South Africa terms it).

If anyone knows of any good sources please let me know!

Keep well

[Al Baldwin]

Toyin Ojo at http://www.rehobothaquatics.com/index2.html recently obtained some ANN Moribaya which I purchased from him. They are very hearty but do not have the required red colourations like Wright is asking for.

[RonWill]

Hi Al, I did a brief check at Tim's site but couln't find reference to the Moribaya population. Would you happen to have further details on that, as well as, some pics?

[Al Baldwin]

He has em listed as "wild" on the killie listing.
When they were offered on Aquabid he gave the "Moribaya" designation.

I checked Aquabid for the pictures but the auction was over the 45 day limit for keeping.

[Slaigar]

Rehoboth Aquatics updates it's stock list but the rest of the site seems pretty much static. The only time I have seen pictures of their fish is from the auctions held in Aquabid(he has pretty cool oddball fish). You can try contacting Toyin and see if he has anymore information/pictures on the wild Ps. annulatus that he has. I am sure he probably has backup photos.

Rehoboth Aquatics is based in the United States but they do ship internationally. It might be quite a price though because of possible government papers that have to filed.

[stormhawk]

Yes I believe Toyin does ship overseas. A friend of mine in the States just received some hard-to-come-by African cats and tetras from Rehoboth. He does have some wild killies from time to time but the shipping will cost alot, especially because of the permits required. Did see those ANN Moribaya on AB before.