Hi all
Yesterday I was chatting with a friend in Brazil. He had just gone collecting in the Barra de Sao Joao area to look for Simp. constanciae. This fish is ONLY found in this small area (not near Cabo Frio) from what we currently know. There were previously 3 pools of this fish in the area. On his arrival he and his friends found all 3 pools destroyed! Gone, fish and all!!!
They were lucky enough to find a 4th pool nearby that had some of the fish so they are not extinct yet! However this pool is on a plot of land that is for sale and will probably be destroyed too. Simp. constanciae may very well soon join Simp. marginatus as being extinct in the wild.
Luckily you can help preserve this species for future generations by keeping the fish in your fishtanks! If you have spare fish or eggs pass them on to someone who can give them a good home! It is all upto us to keep this fish around!
If you are really motivated then get together and form a Species Maintenance Group for this fish. I will have your efforts displayed on the SAA study-group page and maybe you will have many more people join in and help out preserving this fish.
tt4n
Yes Tyrone,
Constanciaeīs status is very critical, but there are people here working very seriously to save this fish. I hope in little time we will have very good news about this. works.
Itīs very interesting to make an Species Maintenance Group for this fish. Otherwise, constanciae is well spread between hobbysts, and itīs a positive point!
Letīs hope that those people in Brazil can change destiny of S.constanciae, in a way to avoid another S.marginatus episode.
Best regards
FFALCON
Francisco Falcon
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Tyrone, I still have some CON with me. The problem is they're not very fertile and aren't too healthy either. The young ones have not been prolific, producing lots of fungused eggs and those that are fertile usually die off during incubation. They just somehow disappear after some time. I am fearing that this line may be lost locally in Singapore.
These descended from eggs sent from the US to Mr Loh KL. If there's anyone willing to send fresh new eggs of the CON Barra de Sao Joao I would be glad to help out. No matter what people say its still a wonderful fish to have around. :wink:
It is highly necessary to keep this species alive and well in the hobby. It has a beautiful colouration when kept in a properly planted tank. My fishes are living testament to their potential colouration.
Before it goes the way of the Dodo in the wild, let us get together and help this species out of the quagmire. :wink:
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Hello Jianyang
The only advice I could give to liven up your old fish is to cool them down... We had some real shabby looking rachovii that have filled out nicely once we moved them from 26 to 21°C. Alas you live in Singapore... Henri de Bruyn filters may help.
About the young fish, they may just be too young or again the temperature may not be right. I would hang onto the peat you get from them. I had several bags of whitei peat that looked like little cotton wool sacks but gave upwards of a 216 fry (that I murdered).
You may also want to try water incubation. Take the eggs, put them into shallow tubs of water, add some Meth.blue, pick out dead eggs and wait and see. It should take about 4 weeks for them to develop. To hatch the eggs just add fresh peat or CO2.
Good luck!
Hi Tyrone, I'll take your suggestion and try to spawn them ASAP. The young females don't seem to fill up even though they've been getting some good feedings of tubifex and BBS.
I still have an old female that is egg-bound. Will attempt to help her remove the stuck egg and pass her back to Ronnie for a spawning attempt. The old male with me is already deteriorating and is close to death but still fighting on. He swims almost 45 degrees tilting to one side and cannot upright himself. I cannot bear to euthanise him. Would rather see him die a natural death than to die by euthanasia.
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Treat with Flagyl or Flubendazole. Sounds like you may have worms...The young females don't seem to fill up even though they've been getting some good feedings of tubifex and BBS.
Tyrone, Flubendazole and Fenbendazole are both considered anthelminthic, ie. drugs used to treat worms. Will the latter work as effectively? BTW, these are controlled items and are not available 'off the counter'.Originally Posted by TyroneGenade
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Ronnie Lee
They probably would work. See here for info on treatment. I'm told spitting onto the powder will help it disolve...
You need not use as strong a dose to worms as you use for Glugea. I think only a half dose once every 3 days 3 times.
tt4n
I remember the constanciae from the 80-ies - a pleasant killifish. Somewhat similar to the suzarti I have now.
How sure can one be that the constanciae was limited to only 4 pools?
I am prepared to keep constanciae again but I refrained to acquire it since I thought that it was too much alike the suzarti.
Erik Thurfjell
SKS 138, BKA 838-05, AKA 08998, SAA 251
I am told that the Simp. constanciae is probably far more widely spread in the Barra de Sao Joao area but that these 4 pools where the most frequented and the only ones the collectors where sure the fish were at. However, most of the habitat is restricted to the same type of land types that are partial for development so while this is most likely not the last pool it could well be the last pool very soon.
About your Simp. suzarti, are they *real* suzarti or what was/is being called sp. South Bahia CI 99? Do you have a picture of yoursuzarti? I would dearly like to get back some of the Bahia CI 99.
I think the constanciae are very different to suzarti and well worth keeping around if you have the space. They are also good beginners fish and I feel we should all have a good beginners fish to hand out to people looking to start keeping killies.
Keep well
There's another rare species from where the constanciae comes from and that would be Leptolebias cruzi. The females are undergoing some observation. So far no worms spotted even when placed under stressful conditions.
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Yes folks
Cruzi is very very endangered, and itīs more difficult to be found on that pools. Iīm having this "worm" problem with some wild S.whitei... I can see some white worms on fish eyes and maybe under fish skins.... can anyone here help me about this??
Best regards
FFALCON
Francisco Falcon
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Hi Francisco,
Those are most probably parasitic worms. Wild fishes usually have some of these parasites attached to their bodies, especially during warmer months. I don't quite recall the treatment methods for such parasitic worms. Perhaps the more experienced fellas can help.
A friend of mine has said that Leptolebias cruzi is most probably extinct because the only known place that it inhabited is now destroyed. Again, predation on the remaining few cruzi by other fishes in the pools may have also "helped" in the extinction of this species.
Another acquantaince also told me that in the natural habitat, Lepto. cruzi is also prey for Simp. whitei and Simp. constanciae. I don't know about their predator-prey dynamics in the ecology of the pools in which they inhabit though.
Tyrone, I think the *real* suzarti and the South Bahia are one and the same species.
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Hi friend!
No, Leptolebias cruzi isnīt extinct... the pond where it was collected som many times still exists, I went there twice in this year. A boy who lives near that pond told me that he caught a little "orange fish with green eyes" sometime ago. I donīt agree that cruzi is eatem by constanciae or whitei.... it is simply ridiculous..... Iīm keeping trying, and as soon as I confirm that thereīs still cruzi there, iīll notice the group. My objectives are to keep and breed this fish as much as I can.
Best regards
FFALCON
i Francisco,
Those are most probably parasitic worms. Wild fishes usually have some of these parasites attached to their bodies, especially during warmer months. I don't quite recall the treatment methods for such parasitic worms. Perhaps the more experienced fellas can help.
A friend of mine has said that Leptolebias cruzi is most probably extinct because the only known place that it inhabited is now destroyed. Again, predation on the remaining few cruzi by other fishes in the pools may have also "helped" in the extinction of this species.
Another acquantaince also told me that in the natural habitat, Lepto. cruzi is also prey for Simp. whitei and Simp. constanciae. I don't know about their predator-prey dynamics in the ecology of the pools in which they inhabit though.
Tyrone, I think the *real* suzarti and the South Bahia are one and the same species.
Francisco Falcon
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Dear Francisco, if you are going to conserve the Leptolebias cruzi, let us know how we can help.
It may still be around but once it's gone from the natural habitat, their only home is in the aquariums of those who care. Same goes for the Simp constanciae.
Please update us on the parasitic worm treatment and the Lepto.
I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
Ronnie Lee
Is the problem that constanciae is not common or otherwise unable to become common or is it that no one is interested in keeping them so they rest in the hands of only a few?
The answer is probably the latter. There was a time when I had hundreds of them but couldn't spread any around because nobody wanted them. The fact is, the Simp constanciae isn't exactly one of the more attractive Killifish.
Hobbyists want to keep only the beautiful species so it's not difficult to understand why nobody wanted the S. constanciae.
Loh K L
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