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Ron,
My beer jug is easier to use fish bone filter. Well for the bottle, i adopt your good idea.
Ohh, learn something new. So the liquid fry works well in aged water. Ron, you are a walking dictionary.
Kee Hoe,
It's a misconception that fry feeds directly on Liquidfry No.1 and although they may appear to be eating it, they aren't.
Bacteria feed on Liquidfry and in turn is consumed by infusoria (a collective name for various micro organisms in the water). Tiny fry will feed on infusoria until they're ready for BBS.
To prevent fruit flies and other bugs from invading your vinegar culture, a loosely packed ball of filter wool is sufficient (no need for 'fish bone mesh' :wink: )
Instead of that futile search for appropriate long-necked bottles, why don't one of you arrange to group order a bunch of test tubes?? Most scientific apparatus shops stocks Pyrex tubes and there's one near NA.
One more thing. ANNs don't have "small mirror on top"... it's just a reflective spot :wink:
I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
Ronnie Lee
Ron,
My beer jug is easier to use fish bone filter. Well for the bottle, i adopt your good idea.
Ohh, learn something new. So the liquid fry works well in aged water. Ron, you are a walking dictionary.
Yes, all hail to Ron, the Great!!Originally Posted by keehoe
Zulkifli
Hi,
It's been a crazy week. Sorry for this late post.
I've got one of these new fangled vodka cocktail things that I'm waiting for my friend to finish and will try it out. the neck is about 5 cm long. I think it'll do for now. Price <$4.
Kwek Leong, I will soon be knocking on your door to start my vinegar eel culture
Ronnie, thanks for your offer of microworms. I will read up on how to culture/maintain those and pick up from you later in the week when things settle down, is that okay? I'll PM you then.
Will my guppies and betta be able to eat these microworms and vinegar eels? I think it'd be nice if they had more than BBS as a food option. Hmmm... I wonder if fish have taste buds?
The fry have grown slightly bigger. I feed them at least five times a day. Generally, by the fourth or fifth day from birth, I'm throwing in one or two tubifex worms for my guppies, but I think that these will scare the killifish at this time.
Thanks
joanne
Guppy and betta fry will be able to take microworms with no problem. :wink:
Hi all, Friday i went Bras Plaza, Art Friends looking for material to make my fish tank cover. Found some test tube/ rack. Small one less than $2 and big one is less than $3 (Ron's method). For those who have trouble looking for one or live near there please go get yours there. Tried and is much better than harvesting from bottle. Further more, you can clearly see the vinegar eel from test tube.
The baby killies look so cute! Does anyone still have excess Australe's eggs to give away (Orange or Orange Spotless)? I want to try hatching the frys from those eggs.
Maybe I'll find time to go to Mr Loh's place to check if he got any excess or if any killies lovers gathering over there (like Miss Esther) have excess orange australe eggs to give away.
e-mail me : [email protected]
Btw, the diet of killiesfish can be conditioned, right? So if you feed those frys prepared foods like flakes, crushed tablets or tiny dry commercial fish foods, they will not reject these when they grow up I suppose. Personally, I strongly recommend anyone with killies fry or any frys to introduces such food to them.
It is funny that the two males orange australe killies fish I got have different food preference (one passed away though..must have been the blood worm). I feed them both live (blood worm and brine shrimp) and prepared food (ocean free colour enhancer XO with immune substance added and tablet). I've got one who will never touch the prepared foods and the other who will occasionally nip at the tablet or gopple up the tiny sinking particle.
The stubborn one who never touch the prepared food pass away after just 2 weeks in my tank ( I was still feeding them both live and prepared food at the same time). And the other, everytime I drop in commercially prepared food, he was always procastinating, 'to eat or not to eat'. Well, he do bite in to those food when there was no more live food for him.
I believe it is always good to also feed these prepared commercial foods to your fishes as they are high in nutrition and most importantly, some of these food has specially added immune substance to it ( well, that is what the label say...unless it is being labeled there by some unscrupulous business men...hmm..)
Also, not to mention the financial and practical convenience other than the nutrition level as there might be times when live foods are not available or too dirty and disgusting for some individuals to prepare (worms and eekkk).
Anyway, I only feed my killiesfish live brineshrimp and occasionally bloodworm (I throw all the leftover away after feeding them just a little of the 30 cents worms I bought from the fish shop. The bad experiences I had with live foods are that they either all just die out (brine shrimps) or they don't just die but emit this terrible foul smell (bloodworms and tubifex worms) *puke*.
Hi Gary, i think natural food is still the best for them. Every species/ individual is unique in its own way. I heard some breeder have to feed their killies live food inorder for them to spawn. Well, food is only good if they eat them. Try look for vitamin enrich adult brine shrimp.
I can't imagine everyday having vitamin pill as meal. I still prefer the normal chicken rice, fried noodle, curry Mmmm etc etc.
Just took a couple of pictures of the killies born 2nd nov. Took these on 27th November. Some of them actually came out in focus. Lesson learnt - take picture before they eat.
Originally, I thought I counted 17 fry. But it turns out there are 21.
Here's the link: 59KB big.
joanne
Wow, they looks handsome. What are you feeding them?
Baby Brine Shrimp since day 1. Some tubifex worms too. I've had a major project so other than feeding, I've not really looked at them. But they look okay. I think they've grown pretty fast. I could barely see them the first day.
Hey Jo they look fat and healthy! I suppose they must have grown alot by now... =) Good for ya!
Esther
I wonder how big are those now ?
Ester, do you have room for rent (fish tank). I just had new meaning for new year's count down. I was counting my fry hatched from eggs bought over internet.
These were taken 22 Dec.
The pictures are big and so link is given.
(I've a really hard time taking pictures of fish!)
Half of the males are now with Kwek Leong who took them last night.
I have a couple of males and most of the females. However, this morning, they may have been missing their brothers too much, all were mulling at the bottom of the tank and looked rather miserable.
Hopefully, they'll be okay.
joanne
WOW!!!. The fry already turn so big.
What you feed the fry with?
Thanks
With large regular water changes and a standard diet of bbs and the like, AUS can be spawning size in 3 months.
Water changes are the key. Jack Wattley and Co. did an experiment with 100 discus fry. 1 group of 50 was fed a rich diet and given a 25% water change per day. The other was fed mashed banana and given a 90% water change per day. The latter group rocketted in growth compared to the 1st group. After 1 month they were double the size.
What limits growth rate? IMHO: ammonia.
tt4n
In that case, a filter filled with zeolite chips would be all we need. A good turnover rate and moderately frequent chip replacement would be easier than 90% daily water changes. Unfortunately, it probably doesn't work, and there are other factors at work that have not been defined.
Also, no water changes would ever be needed if the tank pH was kept below 6.5 or so (many are). All ammonia is converted to ionic ammonium at that level and below.
Ammonia is a known factor in permanent stunting of fry, but I'm convinced it is only one of several things limiting growth. Nutrition is crucial, and I suspect living in a rarely-flushed toilet might be a severe appetite suppressant.
Wright
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And so they areThanks, Joanne. The fish are swimming happily in a tank of their own. I gave them some tubifex worms this afternoon and they're eating well.
The remaining fish in your tank are probably suffering from fright. Fret not. Put in some plants and they will recover in no time. I believe your australes would have been much bigger if you had kept them in a bigger tank. Honestly, I was quite surprised to find out from you that there were no casualties despite the small tank which you were using.
The Killifish hobby in Singapore will do well with more ladies in the hobby. Besides you, Esther and Selena were very successful with the fish I gave them. They have scores of fry from just a trio of adults. And I've noticed too that the ladies are more resourceful. They didn't simply do what I wrote on my website. Esther uses her own brand of peat moss and Selena uses a methylene blue solution to incubate the eggs and both were very successful. Lily Choo who used to have many A. australes too uses a satay stick to force-hatch eggs. They were smart enough to come up with new methods when what was written on my website didn't work for them.
I salute the few Singaporean lady Killifish hobbyists in the forum - Joanne, Esther, Selena and Lily. We have to find more of them in order for the hobby to grow.
Loh K L
Nice picture!! The fish looks like smiling and the adult looks as if with lipstick on.
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