fundulopanchax gardneri Nigerianus P82

[brett]

Can someone teach what is the set-up for their spawning tank . Also how long can a female stay with the male in it before I can introduce another female to the in inside the same spawning tank .

I have now a male about 4cm and 3 females . The male is living in his own tank while all 3 females are living together in another tank . Been feeding them very well for the past 3 weeks etc. live brine shrimp , dry pallets , frozen blood worms and home made frozen shrimp paste with fortified vitamines .

[TyroneGenade]

Because you have so many females it is unlikely that you will be able to set them up in a permanet setup or spawn them on mops as the nonspawning females will eat the eggs.

Setup a good size tank (at least 40cm long) with a thin layer of course gravel (nothing else). Introduce the male and then put a differnt female in with him each day (or second day). When the cycle is done move him out, add some mild aeration and watch the tank. In due course the tank will be swarming with fry.

The fry can be fed on baby brine shrimp on hatching but would probably also take a powder fry food from Tetra or Azoo...

Good luck.

[Svein]

First of all, this is a very nice Killi, and the best, very easy to breed.
I have bred them for 1 year now, and raised about 200 of them.

As Tyrone said, a quite big tank, and put them together. even if there are eggeater among them you can't miss getting fry, if you have well covered tank with plant.

My best result was in peat, I took with me a trio at summer holiday, put them in a little tank only 20 cm, and covered the tank with peat.

This breed gave about 150 fry :-)

So i think even you use peat, javamoss or mop, you will get a nice result if the fish is OK.

I have soft water, and ph about 6.3-6.8.
Good luck

Regards
Svein

[RonWill]

Bernard,
When you have only one male, you'd need to know which pair combo 'works'.

Breeders will do ok in a 6gal plastic tank with 2 nice, thick spawning mops and leave the pair for 3 days. Check the mops for eggs and pick them out with tweezers if you want.

Remove that female into another tank and rotate the next female. Remember which combo gives you the best (and most fertile) results.

If you don't have time for all this, then one male to 2 females is ok since P82 males are 'hard-drivers' (meaning they only have sex on their little minds )

Try it and let us know.

BTW, the P82 is a very pretty fish and isn't established locally. If you're dead sure about their lineage, I'll be looking forward to buy/trade some eggs with you (that should be some encouragement :wink: ).

Tell me more about your 'shrimp paste'... sounds delicious!

[brett]

Ron

did that . I put in a female with that male for about 4 days than scoop her up to her resting container . While also giving the male a day rest . than put in another female for another 4 days .

So far got 12 eggs from the mop but 2 were already white . did not know which female laid the eggs cause it is my first time and I forgot to change to a new mop when I introduce a new female .

Basically I use the 5 plan medium size tank with a mop hanging and a mop below with a small sponge filter in it . But I was really surprise to find some eggs on the mop below as well . Is this normal ? Are they switch spawners ?

As for the male ...... well I must say he is quite a guy . Very energetic and hard working . Always chasing the female round . Sometimes I could even hear him banging on the the tank`s wall while he is on the chase .

So what should I do with the eggs ? should I leave it in the water ? Or should I dry incubate it . If dry is the way for how long .

I will try to snap some pictures of the male and show it to you just in case I got it wrong and it is not the breed I mention .

Thanks .

[nonamethefish]

Would anyone be able to enlighten me on what P82 means? It doesn't look like most other location codes.

[RonWill]

Would anyone be able to enlighten me on what P82 means?

Joseph, your guess is as good as mine :wink:

According to Tim Addis's P82 page, "The code 'P' is something of a mystery. I have been unable to find out what 'P' stands for or where they were collected"

Regardless, it's still a very pretty fish, no?

[RonWill]

So far got 12 eggs from the mop but 2 were already white . did not know which female laid the eggs cause it is my first time and I forgot to change to a new mop when I introduce a new female

Bernard, GARs are quite prolific breeders but immature pairs can throw infertile eggs, becoming opaque, white or fuzz balls.

They're not particular whether it's sinking or floating mops or peat, they follow what Nike say... "Just do it" (you can sometimes find eggs on the sides of sponge filters too!)

If you wish to damp-mop incubate, drip-dry the mop, store in bag under your tank rack for 2 wks, then wet. In water, the first fry can appear as early as 7 days but average 12. By the 18~20th day, do a force hatch on those stubborn eggs.

I will try to snap some pictures of the male and show it to you just in case I got it wrong and it is not the breed I mention

I find this statement disturbing. Did the P82 code come with the fish when you bought it or did you append because it look like an image from the book or Net? Who told you it was P82 in the first place?

[whuntley]

The reason P82 seems strange is that it is not a normal collection code.

From Langton's Wild Collections... 1950-2003, p29, I quote:

"Commercial Import 1982, Nigeria

"Fundulopanchax gardneri nigerianus P-82 (Imported to the Netherlands -- appears to come from the Jos Plateau area, Nigeria. 82 is assumed to be 1982)."

My best guess is that the "P" is a Dutch equivalent to our "CI" in English or a designator for the shipper.

Wright