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    Latest update, 5 fry 6 egg with black spot and a big box of blackish water. What should i feed 1st day Rachovii?

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    BBS and/or microworms
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    SKS 138, BKA 838-05, AKA 08998, SAA 251

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    Ohhhh no.....

    Brine shrimp take 24hours to hatch.

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    Put in lots of java moss. If you can, squirt in a little bit of green water and go hatch the brine shrimp eggs.
    Alternatively, buy a packet of bbs from the lfs.
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    latest count

    Thanks, i will do that now. Still have some bbs i bought last night.
    Lucky i have this feeling that i have to buy bbs to feed my baby guppy and i run to the blk328 at 9:50 before i go home. Really unprepare for this. Ohh, my vineger eel also ready. Can i feed them that too? While waiting for bbs at least.

    The fry count went up to 18 possibly 20 (some might still be in the peat moss). Most of the egg that i manage to separate out have already hatch. A lot of those unhatch are solid white in color. I suppose those will never hatch.

    Still have about 8 that i think will hatch within 7days.
    But they are really tiny. How long would they take to be of a size of a adult guppy?

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    Re: latest count

    Quote Originally Posted by keehoe
    Ohh, my vineger eel also ready. Can i feed them that too?
    Yes, you can feed them vinegar eels also.

    Quote Originally Posted by keehoe
    Most of the egg that i manage to separate out have already hatch. A lot of those unhatch are solid white in color. I suppose those will never hatch.Still have about 8 that i think will hatch within 7days.
    Did you dump the whole peat inside the water or did you picked the eggs out and put inside another container of water? If after 2 days you don't get any more frys, you should dry the peat and re-wet the peat again after 4 weeks. BTW, did you read THIS?

    Quote Originally Posted by keehoe
    But they are really tiny. How long would they take to be of a size of a adult guppy?
    You'd be suprise at how fast they can grow. Feed them well and they can start spawning within 8 weeks.
    Zulkifli

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    zmzfam, honestly this was a big present surprise to me. The egg hatch 2 weeks in advance. (I dont need to check calendar as i started new job the next day i got the egg after i had a good break.)

    When the first one break out of its shell, it was 2am in the morning. I was panic and excited looking at the tiny little dude. I sms Loh about the good news and i start scrach head. No i didn't read that webpage until you pointed to me just now. I try to recall what Loh and shortman told me and do what i think is right

    Mmmm this is how i hatch, hope i don't get scolding for this :wink:
    I use 4 container, 1 inch, 2 inch and 2 x 8 inch
    2 inch container keep the fry with a bit of java moss and some bbs.
    first 8 inch container keep all the peat moss that i have not check through.
    second 8 inch keep those eggs that i manage to get out of the first 8 inch.

    1 inch container keep eggs with eyes up.

    I let all egg hatch in the 1 inch container with no peat moss. And transfer them to 2 inch container with no Java moss. Occationally some will hatch from the 8inch container and i will have to chase the first for 30minutes to have it transfer to 2 inch box.

    The reason for using these small container:
    1 inch: so that i don't have problem chasing after the fry in 2am in the morning after a long day work. It is hard to find the fish and they run super fast. Especilly with peat moss around, is hell. I think the longer i chases the fish, the more energy the fish use. They need these extra energy to find food. The prolong chasing is definately no good for the fry. Last time when i do fishing, we have to kill the catch immediately after we land them (if we were to eat the fish.) Else the amino level would go up the taste will go down and the fish would never survife even if we decided to let it go.

    2 inch: so that the fry don't have too much trouble finding bbs that i put inside. By monday if all goes well will transfer them to bigger container. That very much depends on their progress. If the size is right.




    All container have the same water condition (was from same tank).

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    Quote Originally Posted by keehoe
    zmzfam, honestly this was a big present surprise to me. The egg hatch 2 weeks in advance.
    Kee Hoe, the incubation period I wrote on the container is just a guide. Generally, eggs of Nothobranchius hatch after about 8 weeks of incubation in our kind of climate but there will always be some eggs that can hatch earlier. Someone living in Singapore told me that she got fry from Notho eggs which were incubated for only a week. It's the length of the "hatching window", the period the eggs can remain alive when they are already ready for hatching that puzzles us.

    If you're transferring fry from one container to another, nothing beats using a plastic spoon. I know I wrote of using a turkey baster on the website but that's before I knew better. Here's a picture of a plastic spoon and the container I use to raise fry.



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    Thanks Loh.

    OK, i do that before i go to bed tonight. I have been monitoring the fry. Seems don't grow much and not many of them are eating.

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    Not to sure if anyone else does it this way, but for fry you can use a soup spoon or even a small ladle to remove them. What I like to do(and, as I found out on the killitalk list) isn't my original invention, is to use a yogurt cup and then dip the lip under water slightly to let the current draw the fry into the cup. It works most of the time except on some fry that try to swim away from the current and actually are able to do so.

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    My 24cm x 24cm tray left only 2 fry. Lucky i have brought 4 smaller fry into another tray for closer observation. Those that disappear were the larger few. Does fry capable of doing leap of fate?

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    No, fry don't jump. I suggest you change to a much smaller container since you are left with 2. Fry can be so dumb that food swim pass them yet not knowing what to do. Smaller container increases their chance of getting food.

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    In the case of Chromaphyosemion, fry DO jump! That said, I have only know 2 species of jumping Notho and rachovii wasn't one of them. RAC are ravenous little fry and I doubt they are ignoring food. If you have J.moss in the tub I am certain they are getting enough to eat. The likely cause of death I would guess to be pollution. With heavily fed fry in small containers it is very important to change water daily and that the water be the same temperature and tds as the tub water.

    Introduce some snail to clean up after the RAC fry.

    tt4n

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    In that case. I think most likely cause of the death would be... over feed.
    Can i get by with lots of java moss and no feeding until they are big enough for flakes?

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    Hmm... yes. But you have to do water changes!

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    OK, i will look at them every day and change water whenever req from now on.

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    Today is my luckiest day. Just manage to hatch another Rachovii that i never expected. I was just trying my luck by wetting the peat. Now i have two big brother/ sister Rachovii and one tiny little cutie. This one i will put extra care to make it survive. (At least 3 of them, i have better chance of getting at least one male or one female.)

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