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    Call for help to work on Simpsonichthys myersi 'Kinky'

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    Dear all,
    While my friend is on vacation, I'm charged with the caring for a group of his Simpsonichthys myersi sub-adults and am under the instruction to cull those with anomalies.

    Any half-decent breeder will tell you that in order to maintain a high standard, it's SOP to cull and to cull mercilessly.

    However, I recall a wise man mentioning that such deformity may not be bad genetics alone but also environmental (perhaps and IIRC) metal poisoning, sudden shift in water parameters, etc.

    The Simpsonichthys myersi is not established locally and instead of calling upon the regular core-members to sacrifice yet more tank space, I'd like to see a show of hands for volunteers to help breed the next generation, to see if the defect is genetical or a once-off incident.

    For those who're offering help, please bear in mind that updates will be expected of you and none of these deformed fishes or the subsequent generation is to be released. It is strictly for study purposes.





    From the more experienced and knowledgeable fish keepers, I'll appreciate any advice regarding how we can approach this study objectively.

    Depending on how balanced is the sex ratio (now unsexable), I'll try to allocate 2 pairs per volunteer. Spawning, fertility, hatch rate and further observation of deformitites should be recorded and these results will be compiled, hopefully, by another volunteer.

    The said specimens are now still young and I will raise them to maturity if there's active participation.

    In the event of zero volunteer, the whole lot will end up in the freezer... it's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it.
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
    Ronnie Lee

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    Well I cabn't volunteer but can attest to seeing the same thing in some Simp. whitei. Due to small brood sizes I was never able to cull as ruthlessly as I would of like (Ah... How I findly recall the days of feeding 120 whitei fry to my cichlids...). As consequence I often spawned with fish with bent spines as shown. I still have that strain and I don't have a single bent spine in the lot. I used to get bent spines for the Aplocheilus lineatus as well while my friend with the same line had perfect fish.

    What I am trying to say is that what you are seeing is most probably environmental. Perhaps a lack of vitamin C or calcium. Who know... The only way to find out is to spawn them.

    I hope there are some good fry as this is a rare fish.

    Regards

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    Re: Call for help to work on Simpsonichthys myersi 'Kinky'

    Folks,
    I don't know what to say except feel a little disappointed by the lack of interest but because of ONE lone hobbyist who's game to try, I'll take care of the entire lot for one more week so I can be more certain of their sexes.

    When the time comes, Yi Hong ("killienewb") and I will retain a breeding group of 6 (3 pairs) and the rest will be put to sleep.

    Anyone who's game, but think they're too late, can contact me via email and I'll allocate the pairs (depending on availability) for them to work on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone
    I hope there are some good fry as this is a rare fish.
    heh... and good help is as common as hen's teeth <sigh>
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
    Ronnie Lee

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    Ron,

    Can let me give them a second chance in their live? I can take 3 pair if they are available. I will put aside one tank for them and another half tank for backup.

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    Kinky guppies

    Hi,

    http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=166618

    check out the link above. The guppy hobbyists used crooked guppies and got normal F1 fries.

    Cheers,
    Yi Hong

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    I suppose that depends very much whether the kinky is due to genetic disorder or.... something physical.

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    I would have helped if not living so far away, and flamming customs wasnt going to get in the way. Here "Kinky" means "erotic" so got a shock when i saw this post

    Shae
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    I too would have offered to help if I was close enough to. I kind of keep misfit animals anyway (my dogs were all strays, my horse was starving to death when I got her).
    Deborah

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    Hi, I'm in Malaysia so not sure if am eligible to try my hand at breeding. I'm just above average when it comes to fish and breeding bettas, but as for killies.....just let me know if I pass the exam! Thanks!

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    Shae, one could call them 'erotic'... afterall, have you seen a more curvaceous killie (exortic too, as in rare )

    Folks, thanks for the offer to help but I'm afraid that since there're only 2 females, Yi Hong and I will conduct the experiment. Results, whether favorable or otherwise, will be made known later.

    Deborah and Pauline,
    Thanks for the thoughts. I'll look forward to the day when you're adoring your own killies... if not, what are you waiting for?
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
    Ronnie Lee

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