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Thread: Aphanius Mento pic.

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    Aphanius Mento pic.

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    Naturel water con.:
    NO3=0
    NO2=0
    Gh=>20
    Kh=20
    Ph=6.96
    Mikro Siemens=600-700
    °C= 21-22, °F= 69.8-71.6

    Other lives:
    Cyprinidae fam. Pseudophoxinus antalyae, Cobitidae fam. Orthrias (Nemacheilus) angorae.

    Palaemon sp. , Gammarus sp. (amphipoda).

    Plant:
    Nymphae alba , Ranunculus sp, Cerataphylum sp, Potamageton natans.

    My F0 Mentos.





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    First of all, welcome to the forum.

    Nice fish indeed. I've being hunting for this fish for quite a while without success.
    Au SL

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    Extremely nice species! This species is made for the cold weather in Norway
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    One question.

    I thought the male has light blue spots. The colour of the males in your images seems to have very dark blue spots.
    Au SL

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    Hi all.

    Thanks Au SL.

    My F0 mentos same pics.
    Sorry i have poor english.

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    TyroneGenade to say

    Many mediterranean country have Aphanius Mento.
    I think your country have Aphanius Mento.

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    No, alas we only have Aphanius fasciatus but Stefano I think has 3 pr of mento. Yours are stunning fish. I had to really concentrate to prevent my eyed popping out of my head!

    I thought fish that dark only came from Israel.

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    Au, there was an import of Aphanius mento several months back but nobody responded to my thread then. They are quite aggressive for their size and will kill the female if she is unwilling to spawn.

    Yalcin, that is a very nice fish you have there.
    Fish.. Simply Irresistable
    Back to Killies... slowly.

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    Storm,
    No aggressive fish. My tank 100 cm. and in to alot of male and female. No problem. They are happy.

    Regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormhawk
    Au, there was an import of Aphanius mento several months back but nobody responded to my thread then. They are quite aggressive for their size and will kill the female if she is unwilling to spawn.
    Hi Jianyang,

    Some hobbyists form overseas had approached me for help a month ago and that's why I'm looking for them
    Au SL

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    Hi Au,

    It's not easy to find since its a Mediterranean killie and Aphanius is usually kept by the Europeans. Perhaps it would be good to direct your overseas friends to contact European sources for the species?

    I have not seen these fish for sale locally since then and this was a one-off kind of import. Should have got them for myself back then.

    Perhaps Yalcin here can help.
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    Yalcin, perhaps it is the big group that reduces the aggression of the males. When I saw this fish in a small tank with two males and one female, the male was aggressive towards the small male. In fact the bigger male killed the smaller male and was equally aggressive towards the female.
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    Yalcin , belki o bkz. be belgili tanımlık büyük topluluk adl. şu azaltmak belgili tanımlık nedensiz kavga -in belgili tanımlık erkek. ne zaman I testere bu balık içinde a küçük tank ile iki erkek ve bir dişi , belgili tanımlık erkek was saldırgan akşamüstü belgili tanımlık küçük erkek. vakıa belgili tanımlık bigger erkek maktul belgili tanımlık asgarî erkek ve was eşit saldırgan akşamüstü belgili tanımlık dişi.

    I'm using an online translator so that you can understand better. I hope its accurate enough.
    Fish.. Simply Irresistable
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    Perfect Jianyang...

    You can be right. There is large male, large female and big group at the same tank.
    Large males very calm.
    They are every think conscious so no touch each others.

    I will to attach F1 baby mentos pic. this topic. (soon)

    Regards,

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    Incubation bottle;


    Eggs and eyes;


    F1 Aphanius Mento.


    Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphanius Mento
    Yalcin, I don't understand something.

    In the above image, the bubbles looks like streaks because of low shutter speed but the batch of eggs are clear. Are these not tumbling in the bottle, ie. stuck to the sides?

    If this is the incubation bottle, not hatching, why would you need to do that? Are the eggs not suitable to be incubated in peat?
    I'm back & keeping 'em fingers wet,
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    If this is the incubation bottle, not hatching, why would you need to do that? Are the eggs not suitable to be incubated in peat?
    Some eggs are very sensitive to oxygen deprivation. Keeping the eggs in an egg-tumbler can greatly reduce eggs lost to oxygen shortage caused by eggs going bad etc... Such dead eggs simply disolve in the current the and the ammonia is ferried away and converted to harmless nitrate.

    I used to employ the same technique with my Ancistus spawns. The male was stupid and would constantly spawn in this little cave and then drag is eggs out of it by accident. Unless I incubated the eggs in the egg tumbler I would loose the whole brood. Many eggs were infertile but I never had problems. Given the size of the eggs I was able to have a flow-through tumbler. I poked wholes in the sides of the tumbler (upside-down coke bottle) so the fresh tank water was sucked in the bottom through small wholes and the excess water flowed out the top through small wholes. It worked quite well. I'm sure a similar setup could be had for the Aphanius.

    Such a tumbler would not be useful for rearing as the current would tire the fry out and they wouldn't be able to hunt properly IMHO.

    Some lovely pics through!

    Keep well

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    Hi.

    While i'm picking up the egss with "operational clip" from the "mop", mop's
    fibres splits with the eggs..

    When i put the eggs in the nest bottle, after one or two hours all of them
    get together like a ball.

    3 0r 5 days later, some particulars occur on the inner walls of the bottle.
    Because of this, sometimes that ball of eggs may stay constant attached to
    those particulars.

    Except of 5-10 fungus eggs, almost all of them gives fry.

    i cannot tell the exact number, but i may have 600-700 fry.

    We cannot find peat moss here in turkey easily, so i use coke bottle and i
    may say that it's very useful and succesful.

    Eggs and fibre


    Best regards,

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    Aphanius are quite tough. If you have many extra fish you may want to think about sending some young fish in small bottles or bags to Singapore by post. I've heard stories that they can survive 3 weeks in the post without problems.

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    Hi Yalcin,
    Incubation bottle is a very new and interesting technique to me. I assume that you uses a inverted coke bottle, poke a few tiny hole at the bottle cap and connected it to a aeration. Could you please elaborate more on this technique. Is this for annual or non-annual and do you remove the egg to a still water tray once it is eyed-up?

    Thanks you very much.

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    Ong Poh San

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