Mass Egg Order (Feb 2005)

[stormhawk]

For those interested I am organising another mass egg order from a European source. Those who are keen please state your interest in this thread. Names on the list are as per the list given to me by the breeder. Prices are in Euro € and are inclusive of shipping. I do not know the current exchange rate between SGD and Euro but a rule of thumb is approximately Euro 1 : SGD 2.15.

The list is as follows:

Aphyolebias rubrocaudatus Location 153 - € 15
Maratecoara lacortei "Formoso do Araguaia" B2003 - € 15
Nothobranchius eggersi "Bagamoyo" TZL 52/01 - € 20
Nothobranchius eggersi "Rufiji River" TAN 95/7 - € 15
Nothobranchius guentheri "Zanzibar" - € 10
Rachovia pyropunctata "Bachaquero" BBL 01/02 - € 15
Simpsonichthys adornatus "Sitio do Mato" - € 20
Simpsonichthys auratus "Lagoa Grande" - € 15
Simpsonichthys costai "Formoso do Araguaia" B2003 - € 15
Simpsonichthys sp. aff. stellatus "Urucuia" - € 10
Simpsonichthys magnificus "Malhada" F3 - € 10
Simpsonichthys marginatus - € 15

For those wishing to see pictures, do a search on Google using the names I've listed and most if not all of them have at least one or more pictures on the web.

Interested parties please state your interest in this thread and I will follow up shortly. I will close the orders by Tuesday, 22nd Feb 2005. No restrictions on the number of bags per person but number of bags available will be subject to the breeder's ability to meet the order.

Sorry but this order is open only for Singapore residents. Orders are to be paid in SGD before the closing date. Thank you.

[stormhawk]

Forgot to add, these are mostly South American Annuals (SAA), with the exception of the Nothobranchius, which are East African annuals.

These species will require an incubation period that may last up to 3 months or more depending on the species and how the eggs react to shipping conditions and incubation temperatures in Singapore.

[timebomb]

Jianyang,

I would like to buy a bag of Simpsonichthys marginatus eggs. The ones I saw in the pictures Google threw up look so different from those I saw in Sia Meng's tanks when he had the fish.

Loh K L

[stormhawk]

Alright will add up that order to the list. As of today (Sat, 12 Feb 05) the orders are as follows:

timebomb:
Simp. marginatus x 1 bag = € 15

stormhawk:
Simp. marginatus x 1 bag = € 15

shortman:
Notho. eggersi "Rufiji River" TAN 95/7 x 2 bags = € 30

Orders can be amended anytime from now till the closing date.
If the total orders exceed € 100, we'll be paying in USD instead of Euro and that's much cheaper.

[stormhawk]

Hi KL,

Sia Meng once had this species? I didn't know about it. The key to this species is that there is a bright bluish line running along the length of the dorsal and anal fin, close to the edges of the fins.

This is clearly reflected in its species name - marginatus - which simply means, with margins. In this case, the two bluish lines on the dorsal and anal fins.

Again this is a species that is probably extinct in the wild. The single known habitat of this species has already been destroyed and is now a plantation. All of the pairs circulating in the hobby are supposedly descendents from a single pair that was given to some hobbyists in São Paulo, Brazil, and subsequently spawned with the eggs being distributed worldwide.

[timebomb]

Sia Meng once had this species? I didn't know about it.

On reflection, what Sia Meng had was probably Simpsonichthys picturatus. Sorry, my memory isn't good anymore .

Loh K L

[stormhawk]

Hmm.. I've just returned from overseas expecting some kind of extra enthusiasm in this order but it seems none more are forthcoming. I cannot expect the core members to continuously put in the money and effort in every egg order.

Again I'm appealing for the newbies in particular, to join in. This would be a good way to start off for those interested in annual killifishes. There is always a risk involved in getting eggs that may range from missing packages and fungused eggs on arrival, which is to be expected from any deal concluded online and supplied from overseas sources. This breeder is a pretty reliable person and quite a nice fella too.

[hwchoy]

If I pay for a bag of eggs will you be nice enough to raise them for me? I mean I'm no good at raising these stuff plus I simply don't have the time and space to make food for the babies. Thought I should contribute some eggs to pass around. I just need some adults (if they make it) for modelling and remaining to be used for breeding and passing around.

I'm thinking of getting two different species so one or two "foster-parents" would be needed.

[turaco]

'Nanny' for hire.. Will raise your 'kids' for free

Choy, hire me? Pick your choice of 'children' & I will raise them for you. Condition is such that sometimes sh*ts happens so no guarantee they will make it to adulthood. Meanwhile, I can pass you a pair of fully grown Simp. igneus for 'modelling' if you want.

[hwchoy]

'Nanny' for hire.. Will raise your 'kids' for free

Choy, hire me? Pick your choice of 'children' & I will raise them for you. Condition is such that sometimes sh*ts happens so no guarantee they will make it to adulthood. Meanwhile, I can pass you a pair of fully grown Simp. igneus for 'modelling' if you want.

you are on

[hwchoy]

OK I should get something different from you guys so Gan and try raising some unusual kids

I'll take one bag each of:

Aphyolebias rubrocaudatus Location 153 - € 15
Simpsonichthys costai "Formoso do Araguaia" B2003 - € 15

Turaco will pick them up directly. Can I pay by POSB transfer?

[turaco]

Need to verify this: Is Aphyolebias rubrocaudatus Location 153 the same fish as Aphyolebias sp 153? I have fry for the later. As for Simp. costai, that's my greatest love & biggest headache . Tried 4th time yet failed. Au, the elite breeder , is currently raising some young fish of this species.

Choy, do you still want these species? I'll help raise whatever you want to order.

[hwchoy]

Choy, do you still want these species? I'll help raise whatever you want to order.

tell you what, you pick 2 bags since they are all about the same price anyway. the aim would be to inject species we don't yet have in Singapore, but if you want to have another go at a failed species that's OK with me too.

[stormhawk]

Gan, yes they're one and the same. The Location 153 is more or less a form of Aphyolebias rubrocaudatus.

Simp. costai is also in the early stages of being established locally.

Choy, yes you can pay by bank transfer. I will be closing this order soon so I'll contact you via PM here in the forum. Thanks for joining in.

[stormhawk]

In the list I posted, the following species have not yet been able to be established locally, or were lost in the few years in between:

Simpsonichthys auratus "Lagoa Grande"
Simpsonichthys marginatus
Simpsonichthys adornatus "Sitio do Mato"
Rachovia pyropuncta "Bachaquero" BBL 01/02

The auratus is alive in SG only via the survival of a single female in Ron's possession.

[stormhawk]

For those still interested please make known your intentions here via the forum. Again I stress the need to see the newbies join in such orders. Without such experience nobody would have learnt what they now know with regards to annual killies.

Choy, please choose from the list of species I have specified in my previous post if you intend to bring in non-established or lost species as per our census.

[hwchoy]

stormhawkii, just spoken to gan he will talk to you regarding which species to take. since he is the nanny I suppose he should have a say basically we agreed that we should bring in the lost or the "ugly" whom nobody is interested to keep

[hwchoy]

In the list I posted, the following species have not yet been able to be established locally, or were lost in the few years in between:

Simpsonichthys auratus "Lagoa Grande"
Simpsonichthys marginatus
Simpsonichthys adornatus "Sitio do Mato"
Rachovia pyropuncta "Bachaquero" BBL 01/02

The auratus is alive in SG only via the survival of a single female in Ron's possession.

since you and KL will take the marginatus I don't think I'll take this.

[stormhawk]

Hmm.. from what I understand he wants me to make the choice on your behalf. Here are the prices again for the fish I specified.

Since marginatus is out the rest are as follows:

Simp. auratus "Lagoa Grande" - 15 Euro
Simp. adornatus "Sitio do Mato" - 20 Euro
Rachovia pyropunctata "Bachaquero" BBL 01/02 - 15 Euro

Since the total order so far stands at 60 Euros, we need more than 40 Euros to break the 100 Euro point. If it goes slightly beyond 100 Euros we pay in USD instead as per my communication with the breeder. In other words, if the total order exceeds 100 Euros for example, 110 Euros, we pay 110 USD instead which comes up to be alot more cheaper.

Current exchange rates are as follows:

USD 1 : SGD 1.65
Euro 1 : SGD 2.15

So if we exceed the 100 Euro mark we get a much cheaper deal.

If you take up the remaining 3 species we will get a total of 110 Euros which would be paid as 110 USD instead.

Let me know what you think.

[hwchoy]

what! whack me for €50! boo hoo hoo!

OK lah. considering that couple of specimens from Au alone was worth more than €50 OK I take all three species, so from €30 to US$50 that's only S$18 increase, that's a great deal

Just be sure you're paying US$110 and not €110 in US$ equivalent