Austrolebias nigripinnis Ibicuisito

[itssg]

Hi,

A member selling me above saying killies eggs. Around 30 eggs. I have 0 knowledge into killies. Would you mind to teach me how to hatch the eggs? How to keep the fries and in what type of water parameter? Like PH, KH, temperature, etc.

Thanks
dom.

[RonWill]

How to keep the fries and in what type of water parameter? Like PH, KH, temperature, etc.

Dominic,
If the "Ibichisto" is anything like the Austrolebias nigripinnis "Villa Soriano", then get your live-food cultures ready.

For hatching, I use JBL Oxygen tablets, cool water approx 20ºC, and a take-out container with 2cm water (over the peat). This is the trusted method I use now for most annual species.

Hatching and grow-out water is siphoned from my Cory similis breeding tank and is about pH6.5 @ 27ºC. Sometimes the peat, not coco-peat, will dip the pH slightly lower but acclimatize the fry to the new water if you want to play it safe.

Although quite large upon hatching, the fry seem to have small mouths and cannot consume baby daphnia. If you have infusoria (paramecium or rotifer) or microworms, that would be of great help to reduce initial mortality rate.

The "Villa Soriano" population I mentioned, was approximately 200 fry-count (heck, don't expect me to count 'em ) but they don't seem to take well to being transferred. Some of them look 'stoned' and don't move much.

For almost a week, they don't eat as much as other species fry and perhaps that's why they remained pretty skinny... that Kwek Leong asked if I ever feed the buggers! LOL!!

Although they are more stable now, I reckon these won't be fit for travel for at least another 2 weeks. Update us how yours are doing.

[itssg]

Hi RonWill,

Beside the peat moss, can i use any other mosses like java moss, christmass moss or singapore moss to hatch them? They MUST hatch in cold water? How's about the room temperature 28-29C?

I never see JBL or any brand of oxygen tablets. (May be I didn't pay attention on it.) Can i replace the oxygen tablets with air pump? Or, it will hatch without any oxygen tablet or air pump?

Infusoria (paramecium or rotifer) or microworms are hard to get in KL/PJ area. Is it possible to use liquid fry to feed?

Regards,
dom

[Class 66]

Hi,
I'm very very very new to keeping killies, just wondering where to buy these eggs and which breed are more easy to breed. And roughly how much these eggs cost? Thanks!

Rgds,
desmond

[timebomb]

Beside the peat moss, can i use any other mosses like java moss, christmass moss or singapore moss to hatch them? They MUST hatch in cold water? How's about the room temperature 28-29C?

Dom, the peat moss Ronnie spoke of isn't the same as the mosses you grow in your tanks. Peat moss is more peat than moss. It's the medium often used to incubate Killifish eggs. I don't know who you're buying the eggs from but chances are they will come incubated in peat moss. Ronnie uses cold water to hatch the eggs as he knows from experience, that hatch-rates are higher when the water's cold. That does not mean at higher temperatures, the eggs won't hatch but Ronnie is teaching you the best method he knows. As for oxygen tablets, JBL is one of the brands we use. But there are other brands in the market. Ask the fish shops around your area. I'm quite sure some will have such tablets for sale. You can do without oxygen tablets but as before, Ronnie is telling you the best method he knows.

You're going to get only 30 eggs. Even if all of it hatch, which is unlikely, it would mean you will have the very most, 30 fry to raise. Ronnie uses
microworms and other food cultures to raise his fry but that is mainly because he has thousands of fry to raise. I would suggest you scout around for Brine Shrimp eggs. When hatched, baby brine shrimps are small enough food for your fry. Liquidfry by itself isn't a food. How can it be when it's made of liquid? What Liquidfry does is it promotes the growth of infusoria, which is a food.

I would suggest you check out this thread.

Loh K L

[timebomb]

Hi,
I'm very very very new to keeping killies, just wondering where to buy these eggs and which breed are more easy to breed. And roughly how much these eggs cost? Thanks!

Desmond,

I can see this is your first post so I would like to welcome you to the forum. But I have to also say you shouldn't interrupt Dom's thread. You should have started your own. Anyway, to answer your questions, the price of Killifish eggs can range from a few dollars for a bag of a few hundred eggs to a hundred dollars for a dozen eggs. It all depends on the species. Obviously, the rarer it is, the more expensive are the eggs. If you're looking for the easy species, the Aphyosemion australe aka Lyretail are a good beginner species. Killifish are rarely sold in fish shops. To get them, you have to hunt around for the local breeders. You should find most of them here.

Loh K L

[itssg]

Hi Loh,

Thank you for the information. So, I just jump from the beginner stage to the expert stage of hatching killies eggs. I will try to do the same with what Ronnie said.

30 or less than 30 of them is enough for me to start with. Too many of them will giving headache to get a good place to keep.

Sound like hatching the brine shrimp baby is the best way. Since i can get the brine shrimp eggs in lfs.

Thanks Loh. I will read through the thread. And thanks to Ronnie as well.

Cheers,
dom

[turaco]

Dom,

The correct spelling for the location is "Ibicuisito".
You can take a look at This.Though it feature Notho hatching, it's about the same.
Basically, keep this species cool. If you get good number of fry, I suggest you keep them in several containers to increase their chance of survival further. Also, wet your eggs only when they are eyed up. Have fun!

[itssg]

Hi Gan,

Another killies expert. I will do what you told me. The name was given by the seller. I was blur about the name. Just know Ibicuisito is the location name.

So i have to wet the peat moss once i saw their eyed up? Before that I can't wet the peat moss? Just Ronnie said using the oxygen tablets. When I should introduce it in? When the time eggs hatching or after hatched?

Sorry Loh, I haven't read through the page you gave me. Member's answer help me to digest faster. :P

Cheers,
dom

[stormhawk]

When the eggs appear to be eyed-up, as in the eyes of the embryo are fully formed, wet the peat with the eggs using cold water and drop in an oxygen tablet. The fry should hatch out in a few hours time.

In other words, use the oxygen tablet when u wet the eggs. That is, before the hatching stage.

If you wet the peat too early some of the eggs may get fungus and die off.

[itssg]

When the eggs appear to be eyed-up, as in the eyes of the embryo are fully formed, wet the peat with the eggs using cold water and drop in an oxygen tablet. The fry should hatch out in a few hours time.

In other words, use the oxygen tablet when u wet the eggs. That is, before the hatching stage.

If you wet the peat too early some of the eggs may get fungus and die off.

OK. I got it. I am still looking for the oxygen tablet around the lfs.

[CM Media]

Hi Dom,

Below is the agent distributor from Malaysia for JBL products.

CHEW DISTRIBUTORS (M) SDN. BHD.
1155,Mukim 16, Jalan Perusahaan Sungai Lokan,
Kawasan Perusahaan Sungai Lokan
MAL 13400 Butterworth, Penang
Tel.: 00604-3233111
Fax: 00604-3238368
email: [email protected]

You might want to contact them for nearest shop name at your location that carries the oxygen tablets. You can also buy the oxylon which is packed in big bags used for ponds with the same content as oxy-tablets.

[itssg]

Thanks a lot Au SL. You are helping me to save lot of time and energy. Very appreciate it. I will call them up in a short while.