Someone told me that there was a good article/thread about how to set up a nice wall of moss for a background in your tank. I tried to search the forums, but the search function wasn't working...
I'd appreciate any advice you all have about how to set up a moss wall...the problems seem to be how to anchor the moss initially and how to make sure it gets enough light from that angle.
I'd also appreciate any links to good articles/threads regarding the issue.
Thanks!
Welcome to the forum.
A simple google search for 'moss wall' would definitely throw up some good links.
Here's one : http://www.killies.com/Mosswall.htm
We'd also appreciate if you would sign off with your real name and update your profile so that we know where you are from.Originally Posted by TripleC
Zulkifli
Hey TripleC,
I would follow the link Zulkilfi gave exactly as instructed. I went through about 4 walls without any luck and then I finally got those exact materials and followed on through. I just made two walls recently: a taiwan moss wall and a giant weeping moss wall. Here are a couple pictures of the weeping moss wall. One thing I do is use more moss than is needed, probably several layers. Fishing line works really good, and I would think the more you tie it down and the lesser looseness of the wall, the better the moss will grow.
Regards,
Dennis
Wow, Dennis, that looks great! Unfortunately, I only have a 12X12 piece of Xmas moss...and you look like you have a couple of pizza boxes you could fill! How should I go about growing up the moss so I get some nice sheets like you have? I don't want to make a big mess!
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks for the link zmzfam!
Hey Dennis, you would happen to have extra weeping or taiwan from that massive buy would you? I am doing a new tank soon and I don't have enough of either LOL.
thanks
Yup Dennis
Shame on you for showing us that kind of mosses when it is not possible for us to get it here
Now now Marge don't get too sad. I guess Dennis might have some excess to send to you?
Dennis, you just had to make me drool.
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Wow, Dennis, you sure are one successful moss grower
Welcome to the forum, Chris. If you noticed, zmzfam signed off as Zulkifli. That's his real name. We signed off with real names here and we are glad you did so too.
I've been thinking of putting up a better moss wall article for some time now but haven't got a round tuit yet
I now put the suction cups mostly only along the top edge of the plastic mesh. The moss wall can become a death trap for fishes if the space between the wall and the glass is too narrow. By "hanging" the wall instead of using suction cups on all edges, I create sufficient space for fishes to swim out when they find themselves trapped between the wall and the glass.
If the suction cups don't fit into the holes of the mesh nicely, I use pins to hold them in place.
The mosses are then laid on one side of the plastic mesh. Dennis uses several layers of moss but as far as I know, one layer is more than enough. Just be careful not to leave large empty spaces or there will be a gap in your moss wall later.
After the moss has been laid, I cover it with the other piece of plastic mesh. Those are my wife's hands, by the way. I don't wear bracelets
Just like Dennis, I use fishing line to tie the 2 pieces of mesh together. The fastest way is to use a needle to thread the fishing line through the holes of the mesh. It's not good to tie the 2 pieces of mesh too tightly together or there won't be any space for the moss to grow. You don't want the space to be too loose either. Just leave a gap and everything should work out fine.
This is how my Taiwan Moss wall looked like when I took it down several weeks ago. The problem with moss walls is that the mosses eventually grow too thick and the wall doesn't look nice anymore. But then again, that surely would be a problem many would like to have
Loh K L
Well, some might call it cheating but I created my moss wall by 'stapling' pieces of moss (X-mas or Singapore moss for mine) onto the styro-foam board at the background. Its a pity I don't have a digi-cam to take pictures of it.
Hi Selwyn,
I won't call it cheating but the staples do rust in the water. I'm not sure if that will affect the water conditions but if your moss has overgrown the staples then I guess its not so bad after all.
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Opps, sorry for leaving this out. I didn't actually use real staples. I cut out a small portion of stainless-steel netting and took them apart (one small portion gives many 'wires' to make staple bullets). Then I bent them into the shape of a staple bullet and....*staple staple staple*, hee hee... Thank for bring out that point Jianyang.
Hi Selwyn,
For awhile I thought you meant you used the normal steel staplets that we get from the bookstore. That's a neat idea to think about using the stainless steel mesh instead.
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Wow! Thank you all for the great reviews. I've always wanted to make fellow forumers drool.
Chris,
If you want more moss, just use what works best in growing, which would probably use driftwood. It sounds like you have enough already though, like Mr. Loh said, you do not need more than one layer.
Gomer,
May I offer up a trade? As well as being mad into moss, I am mad into echinodorus, and you have the Lothario Autumn leaves which I cannot afford. Just a plantlet, and I'll make it well worth the trade. I'm heading up to petown today to get some ecco complete, maybe we can meet somewhere on the way. I hope you get this message soon.
Marge,
Pm me and I'll cover you as Jianyang said.
Regards,
Dennis
Wow! You guys are great...
Loh, that updated pictorial was good...and you have beautiful hands (j/k).
Did you just trim the moss wall and replace it every few weeks? it seems like that would be an easy way to maintain it. My main problem with moss in the past has been that it gets really messy.
Chris
Dennis
I don't know if I'll be able to meet up at all, but I can arrange an Autumn leaves for you. Let me look through my tank. I know I have plantlets. I owe two other people some but I should have more! Also, do you already have a kleiner bar? got them too
If we need to ship, it will be very cheap and fast (need to head to the post office on monday anyways). PM me your mailing address so I can shoot it off to the mail (realizing as I type that meeting up probably will be too hard right now..busy)
Hi Tony,
I think the person who asked for the Lothario Autumn plantlet was Dennis, not Marge.
By the way, do you have a picture of this cultivar? I'm curious as to how it looks.
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oops..thanks for the correction LOL
Unfortunately, I do not have a photo. My boss has my camera right now (actually the lab's camera, but I adopted it LOL).
Hi,
I don't know if you know a another hybrid under the name Lothario but the one I know, looks like this:
The picture belongs to Wolfgang Ise's site about sword plants. The site is in German: http://www.wolfgang-ise.de/echinodoren/index.htm but very useful. Another good site (also in German) is: http://echinodorus.de.
regards
Robert
Hey Tony
If you want to send me some plantlets, I am never ever gonna say "No".
LOL...I'm sure that the customs officers will stare at them for a couple weeks to see how long it takes to melt...after they get their answer, they will ship to you.
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