Help with Dosage for Fluebenol 5%

[Diapterondave]

Hi Fellow killie lovers

I have some wild fish I need to clean up. After the hurricane I lost much of my equipment so I am unable to get an accurate measurement for my dosage. I have two tanks to treat. One is 38 litres the other
247 litres ( a 10 gallon and 65 gallon tank for my fellow americans.) I suspect various internal parasites. I know the dosage is 200 mg to 100 litres. I do not have a scale however. Can anyone give me a close enough estimate so I can perhaps use a teaspoon, 1/4 teaspoon etc? Thanks in advance.

Dave

[RonWill]

Dave,
Flubenol is 5% Flubendazole and overdose effects is barely critical. I'm not sure of your tanks' dimensions but for mine, 24"L x 12"W x 14"H, a teaspoon is more than adequate.

[Diapterondave]

Thank you
I have used fluebenol for many years and I agree with you it is very safe and I have never overdosed. I just wanted to get a ball park figure as we say here in USA. I have two tanks the samller one 38 litres or 10 gallons is the one I am more concerned of.

[Al Baldwin]

Per JEHM Company instructions:

Use 1/4 teaspoon per 20 gallons. Repeat after 48 hours, change 25-50% water. Repeat cycle for up to 20 days (pre-mix powder with aquarium water before adding to tank).

[TyroneGenade]

David,

I think if you can, you can do a much better job including it in the food. Flubendazole is totally insoluable in water (according the manufacture) forcing you to overdose massively to get even a little into the fish and this stuff is VERY powerful so you only need a little of it. In water is degrades into toxic compounds forcing massive water changes to remedy the situation.

For feeding, you need to deliver about 5 mg/kg of animal. A BIG furzeri (8cm) is 6.2 g. I imagine a small Aphyosmeion is about 0.5-1.0 gram. This is irrelevant as a fish can only eat so much. I've worked out 3 mg of 5% flubendazole should be good enough for 10 big adult nothos when mixed in with some bloodworm (about 1 gram of bloodworm, enough to feed 10 fish) and frozen with gelatine. Finely minced beef heart or fish meat may be more acceptable.

This is about 3 mg/g of food.

Mince the beef heart or what not and add the flubendazole. I would mix it up by dissolving the drug in olive oil and then adding a small volume of the oil to the food (e.g. you dissolve 3 g of flubendazole in 100 ml of olive oil and add 1 ml per 10 gram of food, store in dark place). Boil up some gelatine (about 5 grams to 100 ml gives a good consistancy) and when it has cooled add it to the food and flubendazole/oil. Mix and freeze in a form most convienent for you (a big solid block and then grate bits off into the tank for feeding). Then feed your fish on this for several days. It helps by first adding the carrier (the oil) to the food mix and letting it soak for an hour or so before adding the gelatine and freezing.

You will use a lot less flubendazole this way and you won't have to do such massive water changes as if you were dosing a tank.

You may have to visit your local pharmacist to get him to help you with the measures.

I haven't tried this yet but this is the general protocol I'm using to dose our killies with meds for experiments (that ARE working!).

Another point, if you suspect worms use Levimasole instead. For flagelates, metronidazole is better. Both are safer than flubendazole.

regards

[Diapterondave]

Thanks to everyone for their help. Tyrone thank you for taking all the time to give me advice. I however have had great success with Fluebenol 5% especially in treating flagellates. With metronidazole I find i would have to retreat time and again. I would always have a few stubborn fish that simply would not recover. Since I switched to Fluebendazole this is not the case. Before hurricane charley hit I ran a massive hatchery and I treated and dissected many species of ornamental tropical fish. I personal;y have been much more satisfied with the results of fluebenole 5% treatments vs metronidazole. I also have not experienced the problems you have described with fluebenole. I dose for 8-10 days I do a water change as nessacery and redose to maintain the stregnth. I have never even seen fry affected and I have had breeding prs of Discus lay eggs and raise spawns etc. I find fluebenol to be 100% safe in my experience. I also have found if you use acetone it makes fluebenol water soluble. To be honest I stopped using acetone and now I just use fluebenole with the same results. I do agree with your treatment reccomendations I just feel my experiences with fluebenol lead me to feel " if it is not broken do not fix it". Thanks again

[TyroneGenade]

if it is not broken do not fix it

If it works, it works.