Welcome Lorraine!

**shortman** · 29th Apr 2005, 14:42

Guys and Gals,

Please welcome our new lady killies fish breeder from overseas, she just recently build herself a new and very impressive fishroom.

Cheers
kho

**turaco** · 29th Apr 2005, 14:48

Let's extend a warm welcome to Lorraine, our new forumer. Many of you must have know this friendly lady whom always make it a point to reply your email queries about killies

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**turaco** · 29th Apr 2005, 14:51

Great minds think alike! Why are we thinking about the same thing at the same time?

**shortman** · 29th Apr 2005, 15:02

Gan,

I merge into your topic.

Cheers

**timebomb** · 29th Apr 2005, 16:31

Originally Posted by turaco

Many of you must have know this friendly lady whom always make it a point to reply your email queries about killies

.

I have no idea who Lorraine is but I took a look at her website and I'm impressed. She even has a map in her fish room for her daughter to stick pins on

I was also touched by the poem about the Crabbit Old Woman who remembers the joys and pains of her life. As an old man myself, I can identify with what was written in the poem. The heart is still young but the body does not agree

Welcome to the forum, Lorraine. I checked your fish list and if ever you have the eggs of the Aphyosemion elberti's for sale, please let me know. I've been trying to get my hands on this fish but it seems very elusive.

Loh K L

**stormhawk** · 30th Apr 2005, 07:11

Hello Lorraine, welcome to the forum.

A little response on your part would be appreciated perhaps after all the greetings from the fellas.

**ruyle** · 30th Apr 2005, 10:23

Is Lorraine going to be coming out from behind the curtain soon?

Bill

**keehoe** · 30th Apr 2005, 15:15

Another owner of Diapteron!! Welcome Lorraine.

**PohSan** · 30th Apr 2005, 15:28

**Gloup-Gloup** · 1st May 2005, 09:52

I will said welcome to a very nice personne witch sale some eggs 2 years ago and I still have some from her it was N.Guntheri Zanzibar

WELCOME LORRAINE
and also ( Merci beaucoup )

Marc P.
Gloup-Gloup
Montreal,Quebec
Canada

**Lorraine** · 1st May 2005, 12:26

You guys welcome in a big way :P
Thanks.

Thank you also for the positive comments about the fishroom, it has been a long road, and not that easy but it is done.
I am really keen to get school kids involved and am opening the fishroom to school tours. I have the geography section ready and am awaiting the delivery of a laptop so I can hook up my microscopes for the science section.

My main job is a registered nurse, I work in home health, which means I travel to their homes to provide the nursing care. It is a wonderful job.

Did the diapteron eggs get there yet????????

**Lorraine** · 1st May 2005, 12:33

Originally Posted by timebomb

Welcome to the forum, Lorraine. I checked your fish list and if ever you have the eggs of the Aphyosemion elberti's for sale, please let me know. I've been trying to get my hands on this fish but it seems very elusive.

Loh K L

The elberti N'tui is a very difficult fish for me. I have had very few eggs, I shipped some to Singapore last year. I think I am going to try peat incubation as water is not very successful.
If I find the secret to breeding you will be very welcome to some eggs.

**RonWill** · 1st May 2005, 12:59

Welcome onboard, Lorraine. I'm sure you'll feel comfy here with all the familiar 'faces', so com' on in, let your hair down and have fun sharing.

Originally Posted by Lorraine

The elberti N'tui is a very difficult fish for me. I have had very few eggs, I shipped some to Singapore last year

If you've not made multiple shipments for the N'tui, then I'm certain that the only N'tui population in Singapore is my responsibility.

If you recall my post to KillieTalk regarding N'tui breeding, I'm now experimenting with low pH and rubberband-tied mops. Work schedule does not permit me to check on mops daily but perhaps later, I'll peep.

Pop us a note, as and when there're changes in your fishroom. Frankly, I'm impressed.

**CM Media** · 1st May 2005, 13:24

Hi Lorraine,

Welcome to our little corner. I sure you'll feel great here.

The australes are doing well here and I have the second generation of fry growing out. But due to the extreme weather here, the adults do not give viable eggs and some are having problem coping with the warm weather..

But I'm very sure that I could get them well establish here later.

I'm too very impressed how your fishroom was constructed. Well done especially for a lady with a job and kids to care for.

**Lorraine** · 1st May 2005, 14:10

Originally Posted by RonWill

If you've not made multiple shipments for the N'tui, then I'm certain that the only N'tui population in Singapore is my responsibility.

If you recall my post to KillieTalk regarding N'tui breeding, I'm now experimenting with low pH and rubberband-tied mops. Work schedule does not permit me to check on mops daily but perhaps later, I'll peep.

Yes they are the fish.
Mine are laying a couple of eggs since I banded the mop. None however are showing fertility in water. The fish are mature, as you have their offspring. I shall try peat for incubating the eggs to see if that makes a difference.

**TyroneGenade** · 1st May 2005, 19:24

A. elberti "N'Tui" comes from the savannah/forrest fringe and can take (and prefer) warmer temperatures than that wanted by other all blue elberti. What temp are you keeping them at?

This water is also very shallow and highly oxygenated so perhaps drop the water level and increase aeration.

tt

**RonWill** · 1st May 2005, 20:39

Originally Posted by Lorraine

Mine are laying a couple of eggs since I banded the mop. None however are showing fertility in water. The fish are mature, as you have their offspring. I shall try peat for incubating the eggs to see if that makes a difference

Lorraine, after reading those tips on KT, I too, banded the mops and last I checked, nadda. It was mentioned that elbertis are eggs eaters, so...

Originally Posted by TyroneGenade

This water is also very shallow and highly oxygenated so perhaps drop the water level and increase aeration

Tyrone, I'm using 3gal critter tanks and their water is about 4inches deep, aerated with an airstone. As said, I don't know what else can be done since the heatwave brought the temp up to 29ºC... too warm for sex, I think

**TyroneGenade** · 1st May 2005, 20:57

I think too little O2 for sex... What are you feeding? Cyclops? Tubifex? Give them something rich to eat. And keep the water very well aerated! Try using a deeper container so you can safely remove the lid so there will be evaporative cooling.

I don't think these fish are egg eaters. Kenjiro Tanaka effortlessly sent me 26 eggs of the N'Dop strain a long while ago.

I think 29°C may be a little warm though. But if David Sanchez can breed Diapteron under these conditions one can also breed Kathetys.

tt

**RonWill** · 1st May 2005, 21:29

Tyrone, those critter tanks have 'slotted-grate'(?) and freely allow air in, unlike plexiglass covers. If the warm weather persists, I'll probably mount an AC fan somewhere and up the aeration.

It's unwise to presume how Tanaka-san breed his killies and those eggs you have now may be the result of countless failures and trying a variety of techniques, before he achieve success. Saying that it was 'effortless' sound less than complimentary to me, IMHO of course.

**TyroneGenade** · 1st May 2005, 21:40

You are correct, I do over imbellish Kenjiro's skill. He only really has success in the spring and autumn with this species, he tells me. In any case, N'Dop is considerred the "easiest" strain and is perhaps one of the oldest surviving strains of this species in the hobby.

I still suspect the answer is better feeding and increased oxygen supply.

tt