Killies.com's 2nd Gathering

[keehoe]

Hi Selena. That should be yummy. But can scale, guts, bleed and de-bone the Aus first before frying? I always drool when i see golden Aus. with flour or without.

[keehoe]

If everything works fine, i will be bringing some

eggs:

Simp. Igneus
Rivulus Tenuis "Tako Talpa"

Gan, can tell me the code/ location of the S.Igneus?

[turaco]

Kee Hoe,

Simp igneus

No Code. You can refer to JY's wonderful work for reference & spelling.

Fish originate from Ronnie.

[keehoe]

Full name is

Simpsonichthys igneus Costa 2000?

Wonder if anyone interested in it in the gathering. Nice looking fish just a bit overly shy.

[hwchoy]

Full name is

Simpsonichthys igneus Costa 2000?

Wonder if anyone interested in it in the gathering. Nice looking fish just a bit overly shy.

scientific name is Simpsonichthys igneus, but it is a proper procedure to quote the original reference i.e. Costa 2000 which describes this fish, but usually only during first mention in an article or paper. you do not have to write "Costa 2000" at every occurence. when dealing with a single genus or where there is no ambiguity you can shorten the genus, in subsequent reference, to just the initial, i.e. S. igneus.

[stormhawk]

There's no need to add in Costa's name to the species name unless you mean it for scientific purposes. Since this will be a hobbyist gathering, use the data as follows.

Location data is Igarité. This species is found in 3 ponds located near the city of Igarité of which all are connected during the rainy season when flooding occurs. (Ref: the original description in Portuguese and Killi-Data).

I've spent some time corresponding with some friends who tell me that most locations for Simpsonichthys are connected one way or another during the rainy season, especially if they are within 5 to 10 km from each other. I can explain more during the gathering when I bring down my map.

Since locality data are based on the nearest landmark (i.e. city or town or river system) then Igarité it is.

So therefore the species plus locality data is as follows:

Simpsonichthys igneus Igarité

[hwchoy]

so I should add this locality to my fish from Turaco too? got state as well?

[stormhawk]

Yes you can do so Choy.

Full locality data is:

Igarité, Bahia, Brazil

[hwchoy]

Yes you can do so Choy.

Full locality data is:

Igarité, Bahia, Brazil

bagus!

[FC]

Hi die-hard buddies,

Glad to know that we finally have the 2nd gathering, I hope we have the same success as the first one where we had lots of participants. I am sure we will do better this time in the arrangements and program.

Having all sorts of commitments around me, it's getting more and more difficult to commit new things. Sometimes, I feel that I am not in control of my time. Nevertheless, I will make effort to participate and help up. KL and Ronnie, let me know what my body (I am silly most of the time) is good for.

[stormhawk]

Freddy, some plants from your tanks would be a great addition to the stuff that will be on sale.

Crypt. wendtii "Brown" perhaps??

[stormhawk]

Hi all, looks like egg production just dipped so I'll be bringing the following instead:

Simp. fulminantis "Guanambi" BHS 95/12 (eggs)
Simp. sp. aff. stellatus "Urucuia" (1 pair)
Rivulus cylindraceus "Al Castro strain" (1 pair)

Got nothing much else to offer. Some of the fish are pretty low on egg production. I'll update as the days go along.

[PohSan]

Hi all,
I hope to bring some Fundulosoma thierryi. They are still young of about 2cm in length. Do I need to bring my own tank to hold them?

I have other fish that is short of male or female so if other has mate for the fish, I will bring them as well:
1) Aphyosemion scheeli (Five male)
2) Simpsonichthys adornatus "Sitio do Mato" ( one female, male "missing in action").


Regards,
Ong Poh San

[stormhawk]

Poh San, I'll adopt the adornatus female. I have a young pair still alive with me. Should be of breeding age very soon.

[stormhawk]

My goodness, in my hurry to head back home I forgot all about the adornatus female that was packed in another bag. My apologies Poh San. Thanks to Au for reminding me. I'll pick up the female from Ron's place (I hope he took it home on my behalf) on Monday when I turn up to collect the live food.

To all who attended, nice meeting you fellas (guys and girls included) even though I was extremely late in arrival. Very sorry for that. Nonetheless, was pretty happy with my purchases today.

Got myself some wonderful yet uncommon to rare SAAs and a small bag of Corydoras habrosus.. aww what cuties..

I hope the same went to those who bought the other killies too.

Just one question, who was taking photographs of the whole thing? I hope these people can forward me the pictures to my email account here:

[email protected]

I'm planning to create a newsletter of sorts with those images since some of my overseas friends are pretty interested in what went on in Singapore earlier today.

With such an effort we might just project the right kind of image to the other association members elsewhere throughout the world.

Again, many thanks to all who attended. I hope to see you all in the near future.

[stormhawk]

Another bit to add on, today I finally saw some killie folk start to dabble in the cichlid area. Blue dempseys anyone?

And yes, people started to notice the Rivulus cylindraceus that Zul was offering for sale sometime back. They're pretty nice and charming fish once you get accustomed to that cigar-shaped body and pretty nice colours on the males.. AND females too.

Thanks to both Zul and Lily, there are some pretty satisfied.. and pretty interested folks in Rivulus too.

[zmzfam]

Another bit to add on, today I finally saw some killie folk start to dabble in the cichlid area. Blue dempseys anyone?

And they are much more livelier in a planted tank. The metallic blue sheen is just perfect.

[stormhawk]

Zul, let me know how the Dempseys work out. They're beautiful fellas but become big bruisers which are a definite no-no for me at this moment.

[timebomb]

The turnout was okay but I was kind of disappointed that there were hardly any new faces. Where were the newbies?

I wonder if it's got something to do with us, the fact that this forum is 2 years old but we have attracted so few into the hobby. It can't be the fish as Killies are the most beautiful of all tropical fishes. What do you think?

Loh K L

[whuntley]

KL

These things seem to have a natural cycle. Clubs get active and grow, and then ennui sets in or something, and they semi-stagnate or coast for a bit.

Then some hotshot gets the idea of having a show and convention and invites a couple of interesting speakers. Most folks ignore the lecture program, but crawl out of the woodwork looking for a bargain at the raffles, fish sale and auction. The club suddenly triples in attendance and a new pattern is established. Meetings are more frequent and raffles and sales/auctions get attendance up a bit until the next cycle (aka lack of enthusiastic volunteers) sets in.

[IMHO, this step will never happen in SG if you continue to meet in fish shops. A really successful club auction/sale would drive the owner wild!]

IMHO, you guys have been right to emphasize building up your list of maintained species, as those are the heart of the hobby.

It seems you have developed a very strong support base for any newcomers. Give it time. It's like a staircase, and you have made the first couple of steps. The rest will follow in time as long as all the experienced breeders don't all go away at the same time. [That happened to BAKA and they are just now getting into recovery mode.]

When you get to thirty or forty regular attendees, don't think they will do any work. It will still be a core of 2-5 people who actually get anything done, so culture them very carefully so they get a chance to blossom.

BTDTBTWW!*

Wright
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