Mass Egg Order : June

[selena]

Hi Gan,

Go ahead, get the pretty fish, cause one day I'll want your fish .

...............and I am eyeing on your boitonei too . Confirm I am first in the line when you start distributing,OK?



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Selena

[stormhawk]

In your SG Killifish Census '05, someone still have Simp. constanciae in his/her tank. Who uh?

And that would be me. I have only one pair left and they're not spawning.

I'll add you up for the constanciae and carlettoi.

[keehoe]

OK Yangyang, i will go for it. Thanks

[stormhawk]

Hi Kee Hoe,

I take it that you're going for the aureoguttatus, boitonei and carlettoi? Please confirm thanks.

[RonWill]

Jian Yang,
You should list the buyers and their wants to avoid confusion. If egg availability is limited, let it be 'first come, first served'.

I'm also interested to know if anyone new*, besides the regular guinea pigs, are contributing to building the local species list

Lousy Monday Blues note:
* Kinda stupid, if you ask me, to rely on the few to satisfy the masses. The regulars are expected, as if we owe the newbies, to undertake bringing in new species, raise the fry, spawn them and then we're expected to sell the progeny cheaply. It gets worse when some balk at the asking prices of adult killie pairs but lack the courage to buy eggs online on their own initiative.

That said, I'd like to see interested hobbyists to get off their butts and do something proactive. With repeated low response and support, the initiative to conduct group orders will become meaningless, so don't complain when future orders are done privately.

[timebomb]

Ronnie,

I can understand how you feel about newbies not doing their part to liven up the Killie scene. But let's put things in perspective.

We don't owe anyone anything. When we buy Killifish eggs at high prices from breeders overseas, we buy because we want to try something new and not because of an obligation to bring in new species for others.

We are also under no obligation to share our fish with others. When we do so, it is because we like to share with those whom we think are our friends and not because we feel a certain responsibility to do so.

Do not feel obligated. We may be the among the first to breed and raise many species of Killies and it is our aim to promote the hobby but we do not have to feel responsible if things don't work out the way we hope.

It isn't a good idea to conduct mass egg orders in private although time and again, it seems only the regulars participate. If we do it privately, it would mean we have given up hope. We shouldn't do that because occasionally, a newbie comes along who becomes a regular. You can say this is true for Kee Hoe and Selena.

Having said all that, I think I speak on the behalf of those who ordered eggs that we appreciate very much the work carried out by Jianyang to organise the mass order.

Loh K L

[imported_lily]

I will get the following:-

1) Aphyolebias rubrocaudatus 153 - USD 15
2) Simp. reticulatus Altamira Xingu - USD 15

One bag each, thank you.

[stormhawk]

Okay Ron,

As requested, here's the order list so far:

Ronnie
Simp. carlettoi Guanambi
Subtotal: USD 25

Kwek Leong
Maratecoara lacortei Formoso do Araguaia B2003
Subtotal: USD 20

Jianyang
Simp. reticulatus Altamira Xingu
Maratecoara lacortei Formoso do Araguaia B2003
Subtotal: USD 35

Selena
Simp. carlettoi Guanambi
Subtotal: USD 25

Kee Hoe
Simp. carlettoi Guanambi
Leptolebias aureoguttatus Iguapé 01/05 F1
Subtotal: (with boitonei) USD 60

Lily
Aphyolebias rubrocaudatus 153
Simp. reticulatus Altamira Xingu
Subtotal: USD 30

Total: USD 195

All one bag per species unless specified. Order will be closed tomorrow, Wednesday 22 June 05. Please let me know beforehand if there are any changes.

There is an addition 4% charge on the total order to cover Paypal charges. I will factor in this cost into everyone's order when I do the necessary conversion and calculations.

Again I wish to state, shipping costs are already included in the price of the eggs. The prices are quoted by the breeder himself.

[Edited for Selena's order]
[Edited to remove Gan's and Kee Hoe's boitonei order]

[markc]

Hi all, i have to admit this order is one of the most interesting one i have seen. The species are rare and super beautiful if you look at the potential side.

Some fishes in the photo didn't pose well as their finage was not fully expanded.
*Simp. boitonei for example

Some have lost its a bit of its intensity of the colour due to clear bottom breeding tank.
*Simp. carlettoi Guanambi for example.

Knowing that i can't handle more than 2 species at a time. I limited myself to only two.

KH

[selena]

Hi Jianyang,

Simp. constanciae Barra de São João

Eh, can I pull out this order? After reading the past post on this species, I realised this bugger was once on the conservation project undertake by several breeders in Singapore. And I know, deep down under skin, I be the next one in line to fail. My shoulder (like chicken bones) will not be able carry the reponsibilities of propagrating the line and I been losing hairs like autumn leaves thinking about it .

And Jianyang, this is my first time participating in the mass egg order (do forgive me if I seem undecisive), I would like to thank you for taking time and effort in organising it.

Thank you

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Selena

[stormhawk]

Hi Selena, no worries you can pull out for the constanciae. It was under a conservation program which failed due to unforseen circumstances and a lack of interest from local hobbyists.

I'll just try with my remaining pair.

[stormhawk]

Hi all,

The order is now closed. I will send an enquiry to the seller to see if he has all of the eggs available. He will be away for the Killis Taldea event in Bilbão, Spain from the 24th to 26th of this month. There might be a slight delay in the order if the payment is not done before he leaves on the 24th.

[RonWill]

There might be a slight delay in the order if the payment is not done before he leaves on the 24th.

Jian Yang, have that converted to SGD and tell us how much to transfer to your account. That, together with prompt payment from those who ordered, should close the deal sooner.

If Paypal remittance is a problem, let me know and I'll transfer the lump sump to the seller. Call me.

[stormhawk]

Update:

The seller just sent me an email today saying that he has all the eggs that we ordered available except for the boitonei eggs. He says that a few more weeks are required before he has any boitonei eggs available.

He did say however that he collected quite a number of Simp. costai Formoso do Araguaia B2003 eggs. He will be away in Spain for the above-mentioned KT event so he asks to enquire again on this coming Monday.

Gan, Kee Hoe, please let me know if you intend to change your orders.

Ron, thanks for the offer, I think it would be easier for you to settle the bill on our behalf first then we'll pay you via bank transfer. I will do the necessary conversions over the weekend and will post them up here. We'll send the payment next week.

[keehoe]

Hi JianYang, In that case i will take the other two. But Boitonei is a beautiful species to left out. Perhaps, maybe next time.

[turaco]

JY,

In that case, can I have a bag of Rachovia pyropunctata? I just wiped out Choy's babies .

(Choy, your Simp. auratus is doing find. Sorry about the Rachovia )

[stormhawk]

Hi Gan,

Sorry but the pyropunctata isn't available this time round. Its not a very prolific species so the availability is erratic at best.

[hwchoy]

JY,

In that case, can I have a bag of Rachovia pyropunctata? I just wiped out Choy's babies .

(Choy, your Simp. auratus is doing find. Sorry about the Rachovia )

oh my poor babies

[stormhawk]

For those who are interested he has eggs of the following species available as well:

Simp. flammeus (30 eggs) - USD 20
Simp. costai (30 eggs) - USD 20
Camp. brucei (20 eggs) - USD 20

For those who intend to get these please let me know by tomorrow (Wednesday, June 29th).

[stormhawk]

I have gotten a reply from Gan so here's the order list as of today (Tuesday, June 28th).

Ronnie
Simp. carlettoi Guanambi
Subtotal: USD 25

Kwek Leong
Maratecoara lacortei Formoso do Araguaia B2003
Subtotal: USD 20

Jianyang
Simp. reticulatus Altamira Xingu
Maratecoara lacortei Formoso do Araguaia B2003
Subtotal: USD 35

Gan (turaco)
Camp. brucei
Subtotal: USD 20

Poh San
Simp. adornatus Sítio do Mato
Subtotal: USD 20

Selena
Simp. carlettoi Guanambi
Simp. flammeus Nova Roma
Subtotal: USD 45

Kee Hoe
Simp. carlettoi Guanambi
Leptolebias aureoguttatus Iguapé 01/05 F1
Subtotal: USD 60

Lily
Aphyolebias rubrocaudatus 153
Simp. reticulatus Altamira Xingu
Subtotal: USD 30

Total: USD 255

Order is now closed.

P.S. The seller says he will absorb the Paypal charges due to the cost of the order so we only have to pay for what we order.

[Edited: 010705 - Selena's Order and Poh San's Order]