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    Quote Originally Posted by JadeIceGreen View Post
    Very quiet, unless I place my ear next to it, I can't even hear it hum. I dun know if its because my tank is only 20 litres or if its because of 2211's flow rate that may not be sufficient as it takes about 45 minutes bring down my tank's temperature from 26 to 24.

    20 litres of water gains ambient heat very quickly so my chiller only gets to rest about 15 minutes before starting up again. 36 watts of lighting does not help too.

    The flow rate of 200 plus (after going through the filter media and chiller) is perfect for my tank at the moment and I'm very happy with the flow.

    On the other hand, I read that a stronger flow will help the chiller cool faster and in turn will bring down my overall electrical bill. I am also highly in favour of the extra 2 litres of filter media space that a 2213 brings but it will be 100 litres more on the flow rate.

    Sorry bro to use my reply to you to ask more questions. But does anyone think I should upgrade to a 2213? I am afraid my tank won't be able to cope with the extra 100 litres per hour as I am not using a lily pipe. Damn, I want a ES-600, I would kill for one.
    I always buy over size filter, much over i should said as i'm connecting few thing before out it goes and that has really drop the flow rate by then, maybe i should get a pump head instead. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper007 View Post
    Wow that chiller is really small! Tempting!
    Mai Tu Leow!!

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    Thanks for the pix I'm having the same problem as you lack of "SPACE".
    Consider a 3 tier 4 ft set up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JadeIceGreen View Post
    Very quiet, unless I place my ear next to it, I can't even hear it hum. I dun know if its because my tank is only 20 litres or if its because of 2211's flow rate that may not be sufficient as it takes about 45 minutes bring down my tank's temperature from 26 to 24.

    20 litres of water gains ambient heat very quickly so my chiller only gets to rest about 15 minutes before starting up again. 36 watts of lighting does not help too.
    Bro, looks like this chiller is the way to go. hmm.....

    By the way, do you think by putting an ambient thermometer instead of the inbuilt thermometer in the chiller would help to reduce the frequency the chiller kicks in? Might be able to have the chiller only kick in every 30 minutes (for instance) rather than every 15 minutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue33 View Post
    Well still alot people think getting ADA will lead them to beautiful scape just like Amano has created, too bad. Forgetting creating aquascape still needs alot of work, patience and also talent(this can achieve by copying from etc...) in a way. Problem is how to maintain and getting the scape to last is difficult for many people.
    I totally agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by blue33 View Post
    I always buy over size filter, much over i should said as i'm connecting few thing before out it goes and that has really drop the flow rate by then, maybe i should get a pump head instead. LOL.
    For me if need strong flow rate, I rather invest in a better filter than a stronger pump head as all those extra filter media that you can put in will be awesome for your tank!

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    Quote Originally Posted by craftsman View Post
    Mai Tu Leow!!



    Consider a 3 tier 4 ft set up!
    Thats the way!! Peer Pressure!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by craftsman View Post
    Bro, looks like this chiller is the way to go. hmm.....

    By the way, do you think by putting an ambient thermometer instead of the inbuilt thermometer in the chiller would help to reduce the frequency the chiller kicks in? Might be able to have the chiller only kick in every 30 minutes (for instance) rather than every 15 minutes?
    Its not the problem of when the chiller kicks in, the problem is when the chiller takes 45 minutes to cool 2 degrees off 20 litres of water that is worrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craftsman View Post
    Mai Tu Leow!!



    Consider a 3 tier 4 ft set up!
    EVIL!!

    Nope not going to buy it!! kekekeke

    Well looking at long term 2.5 to 3ft tank is where I want to go. So if i buy this chiller next time I upgrade how??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper007 View Post
    EVIL!!

    Nope not going to buy it!! kekekeke

    Well looking at long term 2.5 to 3ft tank is where I want to go. So if i buy this chiller next tie I upgrade how??
    Buy the larger chiler loh. Next time upgrade tank no problem. I saw two different sizes at Seaview.
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    I am using Eheim tubes with lily pipe. No issue heating it with boiling water. Eheim 2211 should be enough. Put a fish inside and see how fast it is swimming now.

    I am into aesthetic looks. Buying a pair of ADA inlet and outlet seems like a sin. The price of them can be 3 times the price of my tank. Do!Aqua and CAL seems to have a better pricing. Since I am having mid career crisis, buying expensive goods and frequent shopping helped me to destress. Just kidding! ADA SG should really revised their prices and display a better range. Just reminded myself, I have not bought an expensive 1ft light set yet.

    Anyway, Happy Chinese New Year in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghim View Post
    I am using Eheim tubes with lily pipe. No issue heating it with boiling water. Eheim 2211 should be enough. Put a fish inside and see how fast it is swimming now.

    I am into aesthetic looks. Buying a pair of ADA inlet and outlet seems like a sin. The price of them can be 3 times the price of my tank. Do!Aqua and CAL seems to have a better pricing. Since I am having mid career crisis, buying expensive goods and frequent shopping helped me to destress. Just kidding! ADA SG should really revised their prices and display a better range. Just reminded myself, I have not bought an expensive 1ft light set yet.

    Anyway, Happy Chinese New Year in advance!
    Same here, I am into aesthetics as well.

    Right now, I want to get the Mini Lily Pipe Inflow/Outflow. Problem with that will be a lack of surface agitation that I am afraid might cause my fauna to suffocate as Mini Lily Pipe Outflow looks exactly the same as the eheim outlet. I do have some surface agitation a a corner of the tank and moderate current on the water surface, I dun know if that is enough.




    The other option is to get a actual lily pipe so that I can aerate the water at night. Also, having a lily pipe will open the option of upgrading to a 2213 since it will diffuse the stronger water current.

    Or the other option (boring one. lol) is not to change anything.
    What do you guys feel I should do??


    Test Results for Day 5


    PH – 6.2
    GH - Did not test.
    KH – 3
    NO2 – 0.8
    NH3/NH4 – 6
    CO2 level 71.49 ppm approximately
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    Pre - Photo Period CO2 Update

    CO2 test was taken at 1340, 5 mins to CO2 injection and 20 mins to the start of Day 6's photo period.
    Here is the result.

    pH 6.6
    KH 2.5°/44.64 ppm
    CO2 level 18.84 ppm approximately

    CO2 levels have dropped an approximate 52.65 ppm in the last 14 hours from yesterday's photo period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craftsman View Post
    Buy the larger chiler loh. Next time upgrade tank no problem. I saw two different sizes at Seaview.
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    I think most people interested in knowing the monthly running cost. As it is hard to calculate the average monthly running cost for chillers.

    For nano lily pipe, you can check out Do!Aqua(it is also ADA) and CAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghim View Post
    I think most people interested in knowing the monthly running cost. As it is hard to calculate the average monthly running cost for chillers.

    For nano lily pipe, you can check out Do!Aqua(it is also ADA) and CAL.
    My chiller operates at about 180 watts, an estimated of 10 hours a day. That is about $12-$13 a month.

    I've seen Do!Aqua's lily pipes, they are of a more playful nature. I prefer the sleek look of ADA mainstream lily pipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JadeIceGreen View Post
    My chiller operates at about 180 watts, an estimated of 10 hours a day. That is about $12-$13 a month.

    I've seen Do!Aqua's lily pipes, they are of a more playful nature. I prefer the sleek look of ADA mainstream lily pipes.
    Bro, $12-$13 is probably alot cheaper than normal chillers right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by craftsman View Post
    Bro, $12-$13 is probably alot cheaper than normal chillers right?
    That I have no idea, the amount is actually considered high to me because of my small tank rather than because of the chiller. I got a feeling that if I run a two feet tank, my cost will be about the same or a slight increase.

    For a comparison between my chiller and a compressor based on my tank size, I guess we will never know until someone who also uses a 20 litres tank with a compressor chiller feedback to us.

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    I run 3ft, cost me $8 - $10 a month
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    I run 3ft, cost me $8 - $10 a month
    What temperature did you set your chiller at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    24 degree C
    Wah 24% are you doing breeding of shrimps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper007 View Post
    Wah 24% are you doing breeding of shrimps?
    nope just trying out. People said that cooler water make your plant grow better, less algae. But so far I did not see any different in plant growth and green spot algae still around mostly on the rock. Recently my CO2 finshed without noticing it and BBA start growing on my fern.

    I guess the effect only seen on moss, flame moss twist more in cold water. I didn't see any different for spiky moss
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