Today, just happen to drop by a few LFS and all the spare parts for Eheim filters has went up quite a bit. Take one eg. like the 2028 Impeller only cost about $30 previously and now cost about $45. Getting more expensive to maintain Eheim filters nowadays.
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Do you change the impeller often?Originally Posted by AnA
Today, just happen to drop by a few LFS and all the spare parts for Eheim filters has went up quite a bit. Take one eg. like the 2028 Impeller only cost about $30 previously and now cost about $45. Getting more expensive to maintain Eheim filters nowadays.
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Thats why I'm using Atman canisters now, performance is not much less, but the price is much _much_ less.
And yeah you shouldn't have to change the impeller often, but it also shouldn't cost $45
Fuzzy, when you say the performance of your Atman filters is not much less, can you pinpoint in what areas it is performing not as well as Ehiem filters? Keen to find out, cos apart from the fact that its parts may not be as readily available like Eheim, I really do wonder if operation performance is not on par with Ehiem. I mean, a pump is a pump, a filter is a filter. water goes in and out. The mechanical and biological filter medias are what really makes the difference, right?Thats why I'm using Atman canisters now, performance is not much less, but the price is much _much_ less.
And yeah you shouldn't have to change the impeller often, but it also shouldn't cost $45
I'm keen to explore if I should purchase Taiwan made filters instead for my next filter purchase.
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Fuzzy, when you say the performance of your Atman filters is not much less, can you pinpoint in what areas it is performing not as well as Ehiem filters? Keen to find out, cos apart from the fact that its parts may not be as readily available like Eheim, I really do wonder if operation performance is not on par with Ehiem. I mean, a pump is a pump, a filter is a filter. water goes in and out. The mechanical and biological filter medias are what really makes the difference, right?
I'm keen to explore if I should purchase Taiwan made filters instead for my next filter purchase.
I think this is a very valid question. Without gettng on the back of Eheim supporters too much, with the talk of how reliable Eheim filters are, why do we keep hearing people needing to buy spare parts for replacement, is the reliability of Eheim overstated in this case?
taking the filter media performace out of the equation, the pump performance is crucial too. a good pump will be able to maintain a certain level of flow rate after a certain period of usage. a poorer pump may have identical flow rate performance initially but the flow rate performance may fall off considerably.
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you may be mixing up reliability with wear and tear.
a reliable product will be able to provide you with hassle free service for a certain period of time. however, this does not mean that you do not need any replacement parts; just that the mean time between replacements would be longer.
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NewTank, what or how would you categories an Eheim user as a supporter? Please do not create something that doesn't exist. There's no Eheim supporter here but there are Eheim user though in this forum.
And to your question about hearing more people needing to buy spare part, that's because there are many Eheim user and I believe some of them own more than 1 piece of Eheim equipment. More user meant more equipment.
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Hmm.. good and fair point!
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Thank you for the explanation
Er folks... Detecting iron grinding iron here..... I think New tank is also just trying to find out more. Please don't crucify him or me.
Anyways, its in a forum such as this that helps everyone learn more right?
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Craftsman, there is no crucifying here. Just correcting something which might cause a problem in the future. Sometimes, a person sees something which isn't there in the 1st place. It's not the 1st time someone mention " Eheim Supporter " in this forum when this term is really non-existent at all. We do not want to have a divide between Eheim user and other brand in this forum. As you said before and I quote -" Anyways, its in a forum such as this that helps everyone learn more right? ", that is what we the mods aim to achieve and maintain and not to start a divide.
Hope this clears up any misunderstanding.
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No problems Mohamad...Just pointing out that I didn't feel newtank was using the term "Eheim Supporters" with any negative intent.
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Just want to add that some of us have been using the same filter for more than 10 years, this is where spare part like O-ring or impeller come in handy. wear and tear.
My previous impeller lasted about 6 years. Then on Nov 2007 I replaced and it lasted only about one year and started to hear some noise. Anyway, I just changed the ceramic shaft as the rubber holding the shaft harden and seem to cause a little free play. This may cause some vibration during spinning operation of the impeller. But, after changing to the new ceramic shaft and rubber, the noise still there. Hummm... will change the impeller once the noise gets worse.
By the way, the ceramic shaft for 2028 cost only $8.70 previously and now cost $21. Very high increase in price.
Last edited by AnA; 1st Feb 2009 at 13:40.
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Come to think of it, just wondering if there is a restriction of the flow at the inlet of the filter; would it shorten the life of the impeller?
Previously, I only use what Eheim has recommended for the filter media but now I had added an extra layer of fine filter media (white colour media) in the 2nd container. Could this be the cause of the early failure of the impeller? Maybe I should take out the extra layer...
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Once you detect noise you should make careful inspection of the plastics in the impeller chamber. If it is worn at the sides then it may be a more serious problem like the chamber itself being worn down causing more free play when the impeller is turning.
A bit like a piston of car engine causing wear as it scrapes the sides.
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Speaking of Eheim, has anyone open up the pump to see what's inside. was told that if you open the inside you can clean & spray some oil in it so the unit flow rate will improve. Not sure if there is any truth but I heard this from a LSF. (Don't blame me if you open and the unit becomes faulty.)
Last edited by Viper007; 1st Feb 2009 at 21:20.
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yes most of the people probably do, that is how you clean the impeler
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